More on Margaret Sanger
Friday, Jan 27, 2006
After reading through the comments and dialoguing in private emails this week on my recent post, Abortion and the sufficiency of Scripture, I have to admit that I am surprised at the number of Christian women defending Margaret Sanger’s quote, The most merciful thing a large family can do to one of its infant members is to kill it. I’ve been told repeatedly that I’ve taken the quote out of context. I stand behind my interpretation, but I must admit my bafflement that so many people are interpreting it otherwise.
Some of the surprise stems from the fact that the quote was not the basis of my post, as it was just a passing example. Further amazement arises that Christian women would defend anything Margaret Sanger said or wrote. (I assume they’re defending the context and the words and not the woman herself; in fact, one writer said as such.) The only thing I am not surprised with is that many of you have challenged me on it, and for that, I am grateful. I stand behind my interpretation of her meaning, but it is my intention to allow the reader to be able to interpret the passage for herself. Although my site is one of “humble musings” about humble things, sometimes we talk about important things, and I hope this long post poses some clarity on the discrepancy.
Now, to take a few minutes to address the quote in question. Margaret Sanger’s book, Woman and the New Race, was published in 1920. It is available for you to read in its entirety here. The gist of what I’m hearing is that Sanger doesn’t condone abortion and infanticide, but rather the liberal use of contraception in order that abortion might be avoided. Sanger argues in chapter 10, Contraceptives or Abortion, that contraception among the working class needs to be more readily available to combat unwanted pregnancies so that fewer abortions result of it. In this way, the argument is made that Sanger is “really” against abortion. In fact, Sanger says,
The question, then, is not whether family limitation should be practiced. It is being practiced; it has been practiced for ages and it will always be practiced. The question that society must answer is this: Shall family limitation be achieved through birth control or abortion? Shall normal, safe, effective contraceptives be employed, or shall we continue to force women to the abnormal, often dangerous surgical operation?
Notice the absence of a third option for keeping the baby, or fourth, carrying the baby to term to bless another couple with adoption. With Sanger, it is the same argument that modern parents employ today when they hand contraceptives to their teenagers, because—after all, they’re going to do it anyway. Moderns and pragmatists hold their hands on each side of their faces only willing to observe two options, when really, a third option exists.
The third option, however, is always the one that requires self-control, biblical thinking, and biblical behavior. That’s why we always like to think that we only have two options—it excuses us from behaving and thinking biblically.
The entire premise of Sanger’s book is unbiblical: Woman must have her freedom—the fundamental freedom of choosing whether or not she shall be a mother and how many children she will have. The freedom the Bible espouses is freedom in Christ and freedom from sin. Otherwise, we are slaves for the Lord. Insomuch that it is not fundamentally a question of woman’s rights to be a mother or not be a mother, but rather, it is a question of whether to submit to Christ or not to submit to Christ in all things.
If you do not desire children, don’t marry. In fact, it is with great Biblical support to work with your whole life as unto the Lord, not being concerned with a husband or children. (See I Corinthians 7.)
But the matter of being free to choose children or not while married is an erroneous question. It presupposes that children are made for the pleasure of the parents and not for the Lord’s use. It presupposes that barrenness is a blessing. It presupposes that the matter of children is up to the couple and not of the Lord.
The underlying premise of Sanger’s quote is made with a presupposition of autonomy. If you claim to be a daughter of the Lord, then you do not have the right to make autonomous statements.
Yet you do not know what tomorrow will bring. What is your life? For you are a mist that appears for a little time and then vanishes. Instead you ought to say, “If the Lord wills, we will live and do this or that.” As it is, you boast in your arrogance. All such boasting is evil. ~ James 4:14-16
Now, I just said that “the matter of being free to choose children or not while married is an erroneous question.” The emphasis here is on the word “free,” not on the word “choose.” We do face real decisions of whether to choose or not choose children, but we are never to make those decisions autonomously. We are the Lord’s, and our decisions belong to Him. You are not free; you’ve been bought with a price.
It is not my desire to tackle the subject of Christians using contraception here (though I have in a broad sense). Someone asked my opinion of the matter in the previous posts’ comment section, and here’s what I will say on the subject. It’s not so much that I think natural means of contraception are a sin, but that I wholly agree with God that children are a blessing. (You should too, as it is good to love that which He loves.) What that looks like in your family is a matter of conscience between you, your husband, and the Lord.
But back to the original Sanger quote and whether or not I took it out of context. I wanted to preface her quote with the case that Sanger makes autonomous statements, and that as Christians, we do not have the right to do as such, though it may seem a proper and logical thing to do in a post-modern world. In the chapter which the quote appears, The Wickedness of Creating Large Families, Sanger begins by saying this, The most serious evil of our times is that of encouraging the bringing into the world of large families. The most immoral practice of the day is breeding too many children.
And I’m making sweeping statements, broad judgments?! By her statement, this cookie baking stay-at-home mom with a minivan is worse than Hitler, Stalin, and some guy making video tapes in Afghanistan (or is it Pakistan?).
Sanger argues that large families are a burden on mothers, fathers, and society at large. The context in which the quote is found– The most merciful thing that the large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it– is among a paragraph discussing the morality and mortality rate of children in large families.
Many, perhaps, will think it idle to go farther in demonstrating the immorality [notice the word here is “immorality,” not “mortality!”] of large families, but since there is still an abundance of proof at hand, it may be offered for the sake of those who find difficulty in adjusting old-fashioned ideas to the facts. The most merciful thing that the large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it….The probability of a child handicapped by a weak constitution, an overcrowded home, inadequate food and care, and possibly a deficient mental equipment, winding up in prison or an almshouse, is too evident for comment. Every jail, hospital for the insane, reformatory and institution for the feebleminded cries out against the evils of too prolific breeding among wage-workers.
In a private email, someone argued that Sanger was not promoting infanticide. But how else does one “kill it,” an infant member of a large family? Just not let “it” be born? Hogwash. Margaret Sanger said, “Kill it.” Soon we’ll be talking about what the meaning of “is” is.
The bottom line is that when you take Sanger’s independent, self-enthroned ideas to their logical conclusions, along with a post-modern definition of “mercy”—which we’ve had time to do since her death in 1966—you end up with the largest concentration camp ever invented, Planned Parenthood. Men and women are not autonomous, and Christians, above all, should recognize this fact. And then go out and live like it.
Blessings to all who wrote,
Amy
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Comment by Tonja (January 27, 2006 @ 2:33 pm )
Wonderful post. WONDERFUL.
Sanger wrote, “The most serious evil of our times is that of encouraging the bringing into the world of large families. The most immoral practice of the day is breeding too many children.”
This struck me as very similar to something Aleister Crowley, the most prominent and prolific satanist of the last century, once wrote. He said that the family was “public enemy number one.” “Curse them! They are always in the way,” he said. Sounds like he and Sanger were of like minds to me.
Comment by Kristen (January 27, 2006 @ 2:50 pm )
Amen, sister! What a great post. Thank you for being bold and speaking the truth.
Comment by Jo in Orlando (January 27, 2006 @ 2:54 pm )
Thanks Amy for such a wonderful post. Being the father of a somewhat large family, I can’t imagine what kind of human being I would be if I considered it ok to eliminate one of my children.
Comment by Todd (January 27, 2006 @ 3:17 pm )
Hey, the trackback URL isn’t working–so, here’s my trackback.
Comment by Kristen (January 27, 2006 @ 3:28 pm )
Ditto.
Comment by Stephanie (January 27, 2006 @ 3:36 pm )
I have often agonized over our decision to use birth control. It did seem to me that it was a failure to trust God. Yet from even my Christian parents and my church, I got the message that to continue to pop out babies every 17 months or so would be foolish and irresponsible. And I was suffering, healthwise. I would likely be dead by now if we had not stopped having babies, but even death can be God’s will for a life. Maybe I am not supposed to be here at all.
I know that in Genesis 38, Judah’s sons were condemned for “spilling their seed on the ground” to avoid impregnating Tamar. Was the sin the NFP, or that their hearts were wicked towards Tamar and unwilling to provide her with an heir who would come before them in the line of family inheritance?
We chose a form of sterilization. If this is a sin, ought we to try to have it undone? I was reconciled to the procedure by believing that God, in His omnipotence, could open my womb again if that was His will. Nothing is impossible with God.
I would have been willing to forego sex for the rest of my fertile years (and perhaps beyond), but that was not a solution that was satisfactory to my husband, and I need to honor him.
I have had a lot of mental torture over the issue of birth control, and you are the first person I have come across who has expressed that you think it is just simply wrong. I felt this, but never found any support for the view except in the old Catholic church which all “my people” eschew. I wondered if I was crazy, and I gave in to the pressure of everyone around me, because I agreed that I couldn’t go on as I was without help. And nobody was able or willing to help me. Except through birth control. And I recognize that that is my lack of trust in God (”I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me”), but when even your husband says, “No more babies,” and gets you a puppy instead…
So where does one go from here (after sterilization, and at age 40, but pre-menopausal)? And what about submitting to one’s husband when he doesn’t want any more children? (Please don’t get me wrong– he is a wonderful Christian man. I love him and I do not want to dishonor him in any way. Lots of good Christian men believe in using birth control; should their wives not honor them in this?)
Are you sure that it’s a sin for Christian couples to take measures to limit the number of their offspring?
This is long and random, but I would like to know what you think.
Comment by ruth (January 27, 2006 @ 3:50 pm )
Very nice posting, Amy — very nice!
As the first commenter noted, your usual gift for discernment was definitely in full effect for this posting. You cogently & convincingly made your point.
Thanks!
-ghp
Comment by ghp (January 27, 2006 @ 4:19 pm )
As a relatively new reader of your blog, I’d like to say wow and thank you. This post was outstanding! My heart breaks for Ruth (comment above). I will be praying for her and for you, Amy. You have a special gift -Thanks for sharing it.
Comment by Teresa (January 27, 2006 @ 4:28 pm )
Amy–
I agreed with your first interpretation of the quote. Let me say again how much I enjoy your writing. God has given you a gift. Thank you for sharing it.
Because we had 4 children in 5 years and none since, we seem to get the worst of both worlds with comments. It’s either “Don’t you know what causes that?!” with a disapproving look or “WE chose to let GOD decide.” with a haughty tone and another disapproving look. I didn’t get that “tone” from your post, Amy, and I appreciate that.
I am commenting mainly because of Ruth’s letter. My heart goes out to her as someone who has been there. May I humbly offer my perspective, with nothing but respect for yours?
The best commentary I’ve ever read about birth control is at http://www.lainesletters.com/letters/private.html
I know many people who view birth control as sinful, and for a while I agreed with them. My husband never did, and we had many “discussions” about it. The conclusion I finally came to was that while there are many biblical passages that may support the view that it is wrong, it is never directly mandated. Submitting to my husband, however, IS. Many times over. After much prayer, I saw that I was directly ignoring an explicit command in favor of chasing after an idea that was subject to interpretation, and putting enmity in my marriage by doing so. I followed my husband’s leadership, and brought much peace to my marriage. Now looking back on many health problems and the last two pregnancies spent mainly on bedrest, I am grateful for my husband’s concern for my well-being.
I have nothing but respect for others peoples’ interpretations of this issue. But I hate that it is so often used to beat each other up, or for some to puff themselves up over. That’s why I agree so much with Laine’s Letter on it, and appreciated Amy’s “humble” musing on it.
It was not at all my intent to start an argument about this, Amy, so if it seems that it will, please delete my post. Just wanted to offer my experience to Ruth. I’m praying for you, Ruth!
Comment by Jeana (January 27, 2006 @ 5:12 pm )
There is a good book written by a young Christian couple on the subject of contraception and it completely changed my view on the subject. It’s called Open Embrace by Torode
Thanks Amy for sharing, you really are eloquent.
Comment by Rachael (January 27, 2006 @ 5:15 pm )
Amy- I have been blessed so much by your site. It has been very encouraging as we have much in common, very often I get a great laugh.
We recently (January 1) had our fifth baby. A year ago I wouldn’t have believed it, as my husband had a vasectomy after our fourth son. God got a hold of us and opened our eyes to His view of children found all through His Word. We don’t have much money and I thought it wouldn’t be possible to have more, but He is faithful and provided the money and a great doctor. Five days after my husbands surgery we were pregnant and we have our first girl and are now trusting His will for the amount of children we have.
All this to say that I agree with your post, I don’t know how one can argue that it is not Biblical. I have asked many more mature Christians than myself how they could think we have a right to use birth control and haven’t recieved a Biblical answer yet. The feminists really have got a hold on the church, but I believe God is faithful and He will get the victory. We pray that many married woman will see God’s will for them and pray that God will make many “joyful mothers of children”, instead of choosing bareness.
Comment by Misty Huckstead (January 27, 2006 @ 5:28 pm )
Ok - I do struggle with the whole birth control thing - I have two birth children and two adopted children through foster care — We are going to be adopting again within the next six months - probably a child with disabilities -I sympathize with the lady who has health problems because my two pregnancies were not good and now with high blood pressure it would be a extremely difficult pregnancy - What about all those children in foster care that need a mom and dad ? - there are never enough adoptive homes and many times people who can’t have children want to adopt a baby - not an older child with behavior problems or disabilities -We feel that God has truly blessed us with all of our children and we can’t wait for the next one!!! - I’m not going to condem anyone for having lots of kids because I adore children and I think in any way they come into a family they are a blessing - Melissa
Comment by Melissa (January 27, 2006 @ 5:38 pm )
Amy:
Sounds like you are on target with your understanding of Sanger. It sickens me that anyone can make these kind of statements. Here is an example of a converstion between me and a christian.
Me:
“Oh, I love children. They are so sweet and entertaining”.
Lady: “Oh, you think they are sweet. Wait until they grow up and breed.”
This conversation took place in the church parking lot. It was Sanger incarnate. She has infiltrated the churches for sure.
I can’t really say much more because this whole issue gets me riled up. Bless you, brave girl, for upholding your convictions!
Comment by KS Milkmaid (January 27, 2006 @ 5:57 pm )
Wonderful post, Amy!
Ruth, your post really touched me and my heart aches for you, and I will be praying. Maybe on Monday I will have a chance to respond in more detail, but I suspect your position requires a lot of discernment. I am a Catholic and issues like disagreement between spouses and quasi-permanent sterilization has been considered by the Church….maybe some of that might at least be a tool to think and pray with, for you.
Comment by Atlantic (January 27, 2006 @ 7:16 pm )
Well done! I also had no issue with your original use of Sanger’s words, but I think you clarified your position even better here.
I’m not against the judicious use of birth control, but it does sadden me to see so many people rejecting the gift of children. Korea, where I live, has the lowest birthrate among members of the OECD. It’s even lower than Japan. About 1.2 children per couple currently, and it’s not rising.
Comment by Hannah Im (January 27, 2006 @ 8:10 pm )
I suppose you don’t need another “wonderful post!”
( although that is what I think!). And I’m daily thankful that I’m married to a man who agrees with me on the issue of birth control (not used here). But something struck me, while reading these post, that I’ve never thought of before. Why do we assume that the mother doesn’t want anymore children, when birth control is being used? Granted, it probably is the mother’s “choice” for most, but sometimes it is the father who “chooses”. And it is a viable question: what is one to do when her husband has this view/stand and she doesn’t? My best answer is this: Obey your husband, because God commands it. He also says that we are NOT do to it (or anyhting), if it goes agaisnt a command from God. Although I believe that the Bible (God) teaches that He should be in control of our entire lives, using birth control is not a direct command and can not be supported as such (although it is frowned apon and not favored at all). We must go to God about this and allow Him to change the hearts of our husbands. For the change will not come from us, but only from Above. This goes for everything in our realtionship with our husbands, not just birth control.
I volunteer at a Christian school every Friday morning and when the students (all 12 of them) learned that I was expecting our 4th child in July, their responses surprised me. I suppose they shouldn’t have, but they did. My favorite of them all was “If you want to get into the Guiness Book of World Records, shouldn’t you find a cheaper way of doing it?”. I had to laugh! 4 children is a world record? Maybe I shouldn’t indroduce you to some of our friends with 7, 9, and 12 children! We’ve been married 6 years this March and the rate we are going, we are having a child every 20-23 months. What will they say in 5 more years, with a possible 4 more children?
Comment by Jennifer D (January 27, 2006 @ 9:11 pm )
rock on, amy. though a single woman, i have thought extensively about birth control and really have come to conclude that the heart is the most important piece of this equation - as you say, children are a gift from the Lord, and we are to value and love what He values and loves!
thanks again. as always, i love your posts.
Comment by Laur (January 27, 2006 @ 11:19 pm )
Amy, praise God for brave women like you. Margaret Sanger was a wicked woman, said horrible things, and I am continually shocked to find Christians defending her, defending her philosophies, and even going to Planned Parenthood for thier birth control pills (in the name of “good stewardship” of thier money).
I have only two children so far, yet I can feel the beginnings of disapproval already. People seem to fault me for having two *boys*, as if I could help it. Either that, or give me unsolicited pity, because I will “have to go through it all again” to “get a girl”. And yes, this is all from church people. I cannot count the times I have heard and seen the term “irresponsible” applied by Christians to happy, healthy, Godly families who happen to have more than 3 children. What a shame that Sanger’s tentacles have a firm hold in most of the Church.
Comment by Maggie (January 28, 2006 @ 6:36 am )
I really, at this point, wish I’d thought to e-mail. But since I posted. I think it is only fair for me to post this as well. I don’t have to agree with Singer’s positions to think that it is fair to put it into a historical context and perhaps try to show where she comes from. I would try to do this for my enemies, it is about being fair and giving the benefit of the doubt and seeing things from their perspecitive, and not necessarily about condoning or agreement.
I didn’t really think her to be a Christian, so I guess I don’t fault her for not having a Christian perspective.
My main point was that she would not have had a problem with your family. You sound like you have a wonderful family.
Anyway, most of the two kid moms out there that I know have nothing but respect for parents of large families. I am sorry that anyone, especially followers of Christ, would make you feel otherwise.
Comment by leslie (January 28, 2006 @ 7:21 am )
Amy that was an excellent post!
Comment by Barbara (January 28, 2006 @ 9:13 am )
Amy, you hit the proverbial nail on the head with this post. Sanger’s warped views of “breeding” aside, what has alarmed me over the years is how quickly my Christian sisters take to heart some of the arguments promoted by what at one time was considered the radical feminist agenda.
A few days ago I sent an article to many of the women in my church (my husband is the pastor)from Crosswalk.com entitled What Husbands Want Most From Their Wives Although I am in my mid-40s and have been married for over 20yrs. I thought the article was excellent and encouraging. To my amazement, I got a response from a woman who has known Christ for probably 35 yrs. who said, “I had always heard ‘Respect your husbands’ but I never really knew what that meant.” Huh? I was amazed.
The idea of biblical submission in any form, be it in marriage, conception control, or even in church structure, is a foreign concept to many sisters in the Lord. Why is that? One of our ladies, in a church-related meeting, said that she is a feminist at heart, and finds submission to her husband to be difficult. I don’t think one needs to be a feminist to find submission difficult - it’s not easy for anyone. But if we claim to be Christ’s, then His Word needs to be the very foundation of every aspect of our lives, not just what we do at church. This seems to be a foreign concept to many believers, which utterly baffles me.
Good post, Amy.
Comment by Mx5 (January 28, 2006 @ 11:20 am )
Re: comment by Mx5
I’m not surprised at all, because we aren’t taught what submission means, only given vague references to “submit” and “honor.” I was so thankful for Debbie Pearl’s book “Created to Be His Helpmeet” because she showed through real life examples what it LOOKS LIKE.
Comment by Jeana (January 28, 2006 @ 1:47 pm )
Excellent post, Amy. Right on. I remember the day it dawned on me…It really isn’t about what I “want.”
Comment by Holly (January 28, 2006 @ 2:33 pm )
Amen!
Even though I agree with you on context of the Sanger quote, I cannot fathom a good context for murdering a child. There is no good way to mean that.
You said children are here for God’s use. I believe they are here for his pleasure too. It’s just a song but that doesn’t make it less true. (Jesus loves the little children…)
Thank you willingness to stand up for what God says is right. -Melissa
Comment by Melissa (January 28, 2006 @ 3:55 pm )
Good post, Mrs. Scott.
Comment by Natalie (January 28, 2006 @ 8:25 pm )
Amy
I have not been over here in a while,its good to see your still stiring things up. A great post.
Comment by Scott Terry (January 28, 2006 @ 9:29 pm )
Let me just say–UGH. That Sanger….
I read recently in Keep a Quiet Heart by Elliot that she knew of a DS baby who was born with a repairable problem of the esophagus yet the parents chose to ‘let the baby die.’ There was a sign over his crib with DO NOT FEED. This, my friends, is where the slippery slope of birth control and abortion leads. This is where believing that man gives life and not God leads.
May God have mercy on us all.
Comment by Lyn (January 29, 2006 @ 1:11 pm )
Great post!
My grandmother was born in 1922, lost her mother when she was ten, she was a child of the depression, her father an alcoholic, and she had two crippled brothers to care for.
My grandmother was a teen in the depression. She tells me she remembers a time in California where social workers approached her father. They suggested that he have my grandmother “sterilized”.
These kinds of ways of thinking went through a wave of popularity I think…… Sanger, Hitler. I wonder if this wave of thought grew out of this time period?
I’m glad my grandmother wasn’t sterilized, haha.
We live in an imperfect world, and I for one believe God’s word for sure…….but just when we think we can apply “rules” and say “here is the black & white blueprint of how God says we ought to be” is when we are challenged again because we are imperfect humans, and when these issues arise in our society, is is an opportunity for the grace of Christ to shine.
I recently spent much time in Manila, Philippines who are greatly influenced by the Catholic church. Birth control is illegal to be sold in Manila ~ rule of the current Mayor.
Abortion and divorce are not okay there.
But you see poverty, children being sold, children selling cigarettes. Take an example of a woman who grew up dirt poor, one among many children. She is a maid if she is lucky, but her husband and her maybe have seven children to feed. The husband is out of work. Maybe her husband is a drunk. She does not want to bring more children into the world that she cannot feed. Her husband has no self-control, and she ends up pregnant over and over….
The catholic church says that birth control is a sin (in basic terms)……… How many of us are without sin? My goodness…… who can say that woman should not have access to birthcontrol? I don’t know……. But I do know it is an opportunity for Christ’s grace. I certainly would not say birth control is a sin, I’m not God.
sorry so long…… this is a great issue for women to think about, thanks
Comment by peri (January 29, 2006 @ 10:38 pm )
more, sorry..
about the Philippines situation…. I thought a lot about the situation there. I wondered if maybe it wasn’t God’s plan. Philippines is the only Christian country in SE Asia. Many Filippinos have to leave their country to find work. Filipinos are employed as maids in Hong Kong, Singapore, and incredibly Saudi Arabia. I wondered if this was part of God’s plan for the gospel to reach places like Saudi Arabia….. christian maids? It could be.
Comment by peri (January 29, 2006 @ 10:55 pm )
Hi Amy
Awesome post! I wholeheartedly agree. As one who has given birth to seven children, one of those born straight into the arms of Jesus and who also happened to be the first of four children born after my tubal ligation reversal - I applaud you for telling it like it is!
I do not personally believe that natural family planning is a sin. I do not beleive in popping out babies one right after the other, nor that running our health into the ground is doing our families, much less the kingdom of God!, any good. But I do believe that we should not be so quick to find a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Babies grow up, bodies rest and heal.
Comment by Traci (January 30, 2006 @ 6:10 pm )
I’m sorry, but that line “Popping babies out one after the other” is so offensive to me. I have had 8 so far, and not one of them “popped” out. And they don’t come “One after the other” like some production line. God is the giver of life, He creates each one. I’m sorry if I sound cantankerous, and maybe I am. But these types of phrases seem a bit on the vulger side to me and further degrading of the whole view of babyhood and life. I think at least we Christians ought to think a little more about how we put things, if the way we are talking is in line with the way God describes them.
Just my 2 cents, probably worth about that much.
Comment by kerri (January 30, 2006 @ 6:52 pm )
I assume you’re referring to my post… I’m sorry if my terminology offended you. That wasn’t my intention. For me personally, my babies actually did pop out - as in no pushing and hurry up and catch! So I was referring to my own self in that respect, and often joke that after the third one they just started walking out.
But in rereading my post, I can see where that comment, without any further explanation on it’s relevance in my own life, did seem harsh and offensive. Please forgive my insensitivity and poor choice of wording.
Comment by Traci (January 30, 2006 @ 7:14 pm )
“The third option, however, is always the one that requires self-control, biblical thinking, and biblical behavior.”
That is a great reminder. I just found out this week that my husband and I are expecting our third, and our oldest is 2 and second baby is 9 months. We were honestly not happy at first because we were overwhelmed at this thought. It’s true that being humbled like this and accepting God’s gift of children requires these behaviors previously mentioned (also gifts) from God.
So many times I think the body of Christ gets wrapped up in these attitudes without realizing that we are His army, and He is raising us up how He sees fit because yes, He wants us to be useful and gets tremendous joy when we multiply His joy and spread the Gospel to the unloved children in this world. When I look at my babies during the day with slobber on their bibs and carrots on their faces, needing a diaper change, God reminds me that I’m raising God’s warriors, not just “breeding” some crazed ideology.
Comment by Kristi (January 31, 2006 @ 12:00 am )
Amy,
I’m coming in a little late but I wanted to say that your post was fantastic. Succinct and biblical, but with compassion. That’s hard to do with such a controversial subject.
I wanted to address something that seems to be missing. God opens the womb AND closes it. Just because someone has four children in five years doesn’t mean this will continue happening like there’s nothing to stop it. I say this because after getting pregnant on our honeymoon, I had this fear that I would just keep getting pregnant. I also had the comments of being a fertile Myrtle. We had always said that we wanted God to be in control of how many children we had, but after the first child I was scared and almost started taking the pill. Then God showed me how I was operating out of fear and I threw away those pills. Well, almost ten years later, we only have three children. We want more but the Lord has not favored us in this way…yet. Some women do keep having children, one after another, but not all.
I’ve been reading in Genesis lately and the stories of Sarah, Rebekah, Rachel and Leah are an amazing study in God’s sovereignty over the womb and what our attitudes should or should not be concerning children.
Thanks for the great post Amy. Keep it up!
Comment by Meredith B. (January 31, 2006 @ 11:58 am )
Excellent and well done, Amy! I don’t know how ANY person who is truly a Christian could agree with abortion. That just could not be possible. I feel very strongly about the birth control issue, too. Thankfully, I am not responsible for others’ choices. We are currently expecting baby #6. When people ask, “Don’t you know what causes that?” You can say, “Yes, and we LIKE it!”
Comment by Nancy (January 31, 2006 @ 1:06 pm )
Merideth, that is a great point!
I know lots of ladies on the pill now because they believe they are fertile myrtiles–because thier three planned children were concieved the month after they started “trying”. That is thier proof that if it weren’t for the pill, they’d be having a baby every single year. Argh. :/
I wonder if it ever occurred to them that God just decided to favor thier “efforts” those times, and wouldn’t necessarily bless them with 20 bunchkins?
Comment by Maggie (January 31, 2006 @ 4:02 pm )
The world is overpopulated. China, for example. If all the women in China gave up birth control, the country wouldn’t have enough food. Children are a blessing… until we run out of money, food, room…
We are reaching that way in the United States. It’s time to choose when we have the baby. Abortion is your own choice, but if I see a pregnant girl of 12 choose to abort after she was raped, I wouldn’t argue with her choice. But it definitely is for extreme times only - not as a form of birth control. And remember, honor your husband, don’t submit.
Comment by Eleanore (February 13, 2007 @ 5:42 pm )
What? Overpopulation? Have you read about the incentives being used in France and Germany to get people to have more children? We are headed that way here, too, if you look at the statistics. Much research shows that an abortion after a rape can be as traumatic or more traumatic than the rape itself.
Note to Amy: Please be careful about making blanket statements such as being shocked “that Christian women would defend anything Margaret Sanger said or wrote.” None of us are capable of ever being without sin in our words or actions, but at the same time, noone is capable of pure evil, save Satan. While I have issues with Sanger’s philosophies, too, it is oversimplifying to imply that EVERYTHING she has ever said or done is not worth defending. Surely there must be something she said (accidentally? ) that you might agree with.
Comment by eudora (February 14, 2007 @ 6:06 pm )