Blueberries, take two
Wednesday, Jun 7, 2006
When I mentioned that our family talked with a blueberry farmer when we went picking, several of you asked what we learned. Most of our questions centered on the economic aspects of the business, and since our new farming friend was chatty, we learned about everything else in between as well.
The first thing that struck me when we pulled up was that all the blueberry bushes were in pots. Yes, pots! This made for easy picking, as you didn’t have to bend down to get the lower berries. Since blueberries need acidic soil, pots make it easier to control growing conditions. I’ve since learned from my reading on the subject that oak leaves and pine needles are great organic ways to increase the soil acidity, which is good, because those are free and available materials in our own yard.
I would imagine that pots would make for easier weeding as well. I had a distant cousin who grew blueberries in west Florida, but she mowed them down because of the weeds. They were just too much to maintain. I noticed that the weeds were prolific on this farm as well.
As a side note, I wonder if U-pick operations haven’t tried some kind of method where pickers get to subtract the number of weeds they pull from the pounds that they pick. In other words, if I picked 10 pounds of berries and 3 pounds of weeds, then I would only pay for 7 pounds of berries. Just thinking aloud, as you’d probably have to adjust the ratios accordingly to make it profitable for the farmer and worthwhile to the picker.
We learned a few particulars about growing blueberries in Florida. I checked out a book on growing blueberries “in the south,” and it didn’t seem to square up with what we learned during our discussion. I’m inclined to believe the farmer, as we were eating blueberries while discussing them. The thing is, nothing I can tell you —save a bit about blueberries needing well-drained, acidic, organic soil— will help you grow blueberries where you live. Each climate is different; therefore, the culturing is not the same.
Next spring, we hope to get to a little place that grows blackberries. (The closest “farms” are two hours away, and the growing season is over this year.) I’m sure blackberries grow wild wherever you live, but in Florida, only the spring breakers are wild. Everything else is work.
Our new friend explained that growing food is more of an art than a science. You just have to try it, tweaking as you go. I agree with this, as even in neighborhoods, each yard has its own unique micro-culture. The neighbor across the street from me has better shade, and so his impatiens don’t need near the coddling as I do to mine.
At the nice little place we picked, regular blueberries were $3/ pound and organic blueberries were $5/ pound. The education, of course, was worth more than that.
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Wow! $3.00 a pound! Here in Washington we pick our blueberries in August and last year only paid 1.25 per pound they were not organic but had no chemicals sprayed on them. I guess I won’t be complaining about the price here ever. I’m still working on my herb container garden and then I’ll think about expanding…
Thanks Amy!
Comment by Mrs_H (June 7, 2006 @ 5:35 pm )
Amy,
Thanks for expounding on what you learned at the u-pick farm!
We got blueberry bushes this year and so far, we haven’t had any trouble, but that is probably because the guy we bought them from babied them before we got them. They are organic, and he did tell us that we would need to acidify the soil before transplanting them. He did tell us to use oak leaves (which we have an over abundance of due to an enormous oak tree on the side of our house. So, we took good advantage of that. We are also starting an compost pile that is breaking down highly acidic things so that we have more to put in if we need it next year.
The main thing this man told us was that for the first two years after transplanting, we should nip off the “fruit lips” as they begin to appear. This allows the roots to go deeper and really establish health for the plant the first two years, then, after that when the fruit starts to appear, we may gather it as it becomes ripe. So, in 2008, we are hopefully going to be rolling around in the blueberries!
I like the thought of $5 per pound! Especially if we end up selling them at the farmers market like we are planning! I don’t know if we can get quite that much for them here as there are a number of places where one can pick berries in the wild and also at u-pick farms, but I will check out the going rate locally.
Thanks again for the info, Amy! Me thinks we are on to a good thing with the blueberries on our little homestead! In fact, the man we bought the blueberries from said that berry bushes are a great way to make a decent amount of money off of a very little bit of land. I hope he’s right.
Comment by Amy Howard (June 7, 2006 @ 7:44 pm )
thanks for that. i feel like i know a bit about growing blueberries now.God Bless!
Comment by Tey (June 7, 2006 @ 8:08 pm )
Here in NZ I paid $7 per kg last summer when I did pick your own, non-organic, and I was excited about that because I paid $2.50 for 100 g in the store. I’d love to pay only $1.25 a pound!
Comment by MicheleinNZ (June 7, 2006 @ 10:28 pm )
Amy,
Joel Salatin lists “small berries” as one of the ten most profitable operations. If you think about it, the high cost coupled with the high demand makes it a reasonable venture. (Yes, pulling off those first fruits is very painful.)
$3 - 5 a pound is not a high price where we live. Everything is very expensive… I’ve seen tomatoes for 2.99 / pound, which makes me very glad that at least I can get those to grow. Yes!
Comment by Amy Scott (June 7, 2006 @ 10:29 pm )
Hey Amy:
Did you make jam with all those fresh berries? Freeze them for later? Don’t keep us in the dark!
Wise advice: buy plants from someone who has cultivated them within your zone.
And if you have a deer problem, you will want to fence them in. I’d tell you how I know this to be true, but then I’d start crying and my keyboard would start throwing off sparks.
Sell price for organic in downtown Atlanta last weekend: $4.50 per pint! (I was not the seller….which was too bad because there were lots of buyers!) Of course, it’s not quite season in north GA yet. Two weeks, Lord willing.
Keep having fun!
Comment by MrsBurns (June 8, 2006 @ 12:14 am )
Amy,
Where is this blueberry and especially the blackberry farm?!? I don’t really know if Jase would like to go, but I would love to check them out! Those really aren’t bad prices compared to Publix!!
Comment by Eryn (June 8, 2006 @ 10:19 am )
I dream of growing our own blueberries. We’re renting right now so it’ll have to wait since I can’t go digging up the yard. At least we have a sunny deck, so we bought a large pot and planted some tomatoes and strawberries. It will be my children’s “container gardening” project for this year.
Comment by Amy (June 8, 2006 @ 2:33 pm )
I live in a suburban neighborhood, where one family has a dozen blueberry bushes. We are lucky enough to have enjoyed them fresh in lemon yogurt, then frozen, and later in cobbler or banana bread.
Dana in GA
Comment by Dana (June 8, 2006 @ 2:38 pm )
Amy,
Thanks for the advice from Salatin. I need to read more of his stuff. I’m still working my way through Family Friendly farming at present. Great book!
Comment by Amy Howard (June 8, 2006 @ 3:05 pm )
Unfortunately, my experience with any small berry picking in the South is chiggers. Especially around wild blackberries. Not pleasant. I haven’t decided if it’s worth it or not!
Comment by Linda (June 8, 2006 @ 4:43 pm )
We ate almost all of them before the day was done.
They’re closer to you than us, Eryn. The blueberries were somewhere near Plant City, and the blackberries near Land ‘o Lakes, but you’ll have to wait until next spring. We also found a woman with peaches. Perhaps we can make a trip of it together next year.
I believe the berry advice was in You Can Farm.
Comment by Amy Scott (June 8, 2006 @ 10:27 pm )
I have been reading you blog for a while, but never posted. However, I just couldn’t pass up the opportunity to share my favorite u-pick farm. If you come all the way to Plant City, you may want to check out the Parke Family HydroFarm. It is off of I-4 at the Dinoland exit. This u-pick farm uses hydroponic stackers. I love the stackers because it is easy to bring a stroller along inbetween the plants. Our homeschool group took a field trip their this spring. The Parke Family also homeschools. They currently (June 06) have tomatoes, Chinese cabbage (like bok choy), bibb and romaine lettuce, snow peas, sugar snap peas, green beans, green and red sweet peppers, cucumbers and strawberries. They are organic.
Here is their website: http://www.parkehydro.com/
If you send them an email they will send you updates on specials and what is available. gparke@tampabay.rr.com
Comment by T Nash (June 9, 2006 @ 9:12 am )
Blues
Amy with blueberry FAQ at Amy’s Humble Musings….
Trackback by BlogWatch (June 9, 2006 @ 11:54 am )
Thanks for the head’s up, T Nash! I actually saw their website awhile ago while looking for U-Picks, but they don’t advertise all their other produce. Wierd, as that is the best part—one stop shopping.
I just talked to Mr. Parke on the phone, and I’m excited to see their operation. I’m also going to look into their produce buying club, and see about finding/setting up a carpool, as it is a 2+ hour drive, one way.
Anyone else want to meet up to do a tour next Saturday? (Jo in Orlando…? Eryn? Anyone?)
Comment by Amy Scott (June 9, 2006 @ 12:32 pm )
I might be up for that. Email me some details. Would your whole family go? I may also be up for going in with you on the peach trees if we’re still in Florida. I’m so ready to move North of here to a place with no hurricanes.
Comment by Jo in Orlando (June 10, 2006 @ 5:14 pm )
Amy, I’m impressed at your gardening ventures in Florida. *grin* While I know that things grow green and wild here, it seems challenging to cultivate anything. My MIL lived inland for awhile while homeschooling–five acres and a houseful of kiddos. She tried gardening, but the only thing that grew were wildflowers over the septic system. The acidic soil from the pine needles did her in.
Other arts I’ve dabbled and had success in, but I have a terminally black thumb. I’m just thankful for the produce market near us with very reasonable prices (especially with their these-are-ripe-today sales–like todays!)
Comment by TulipGrrl (June 10, 2006 @ 8:31 pm )
I have a funeral to go to next Saturday, Amy, but if you get down there and like what you see and go again, definatly let me know!!!!
And as for the berries next Spring, I would definatly be up for going with you (peaches too!!)
Keep me in the loop of when you want to go. You can email me or get my number from Greg’s sister.
Comment by Eryn (June 11, 2006 @ 12:49 pm )
Amy,
I am sure you are used to the high cost of some of the veggies and fruits in your neck of the woods, but my blueberry-loving mouth fell to floor at those prices! :-O
If you like the farm/product (in this case- blueberries), talk to the farmer about co-op/buying power. Organize within your local community to buy/pick larger amounts for cheaper prices. Carpool groups of folks and make it a homeschool trip. Possibly think of next year finding a group of locals who want the blackberries, and organizing a pick-a-peck or group purchase.
Carla Lynne
Comment by Carla Lynne (June 12, 2006 @ 6:48 am )
Hi Amy, I just found your site and you seem to know your stuff. I live in Orlandoand I love gardening but I have to admit, I am not very good at it yet…I am in the learning curve. Anyway, I love blueberries and have 10 plants right now. 3 each of southern highbush and nothern highbush and 4 sunshine blue which I just got and have yet to plant. I planted the high bush about 6 months ago all in large pots. I am sure I don’t have the soil right. I have a tester and my soil is still just 7 ph. When I planted them, I had a recipe for the soil (which I have lost) . Can someone tell me what the potting medium should be? I would also like to know if anyone has ever tried to grow blueberries in an Earthbox. If so, can you tell me exactly what to do. do blueberries get a different potting mixture? do I need to put the fertilizer strip in? I’d appreciate any help from anyone. Thanks so very much.
Comment by April (September 27, 2006 @ 9:10 am )
April,
You are soooo doomed.
Blueberries need an acidic soil (about 4.5 - 5.5). A ph of 7 is way too high. I also had this same problem, and I ammended the soil with sulfer. Don’t do that! It burned them all down. Here is a good link for you. Best wishes on your new adventure!
Comment by Amy Scott (October 1, 2006 @ 10:35 pm )