Life with Three Under Three #7: God’s providence
Thursday, May 3, 2007
“Mother says we ought to study God’s providence more than we do, since He has a meaning and a purpose in everything He does. Sometimes I can do this and find it a source of great happiness. Then worldly cares seem mere worldly cares, and I forget that His wise, kind hand is in every one of them.“
(Katy in Stepping Heavenward, page 216)
We’re often asked, “Well, how many are you going to have?!” Sometimes this is a statement and sometimes it is an honest question. We don’t answer, “As many as the Lord sends,” though we admire those whose faith causes them to answer that way. I tell them –strangers and friends alike—that we’re just taking them one at a time. Cancer, depression, or physical problems beyond pain and nausea could cause us to make decisions differently. Each difficult pregnancy is a step of faith, and we depend on our Creator to renew our faith each time.
He who has the most children doesn’t win. God’s glory is the end, not family in itself. It is all-consuming now, but it won’t always be. They will be ready to take on the world one day. As God blesses us, we depend on him for our children’s salvation, knowing that He requires much from us along the way. What good is it to suffer pain in the beginning, neglect our duty to train them in the way they should go, and then end up with a fool in the end? God desires godly offspring, not a pack of consumer gluttons. We work and He works. We believe and He helps our unbelief.
When God sent our third child, I didn’t understand what He was doing. We’d already had a preschooler and a toddler. Didn’t He know we were already busy over here? Didn’t He know that I wasn’t ready? I found it hard to get back to sleep after being woken up (until #5 came along) and so I asked Him about these things when she’d cry in the middle of the night. I didn’t understand then what I know a little of now: He never makes mistakes and does nothing arbitrarily.
God knew what I needed when I didn’t know it myself. Annalise, my third, is a picture of grace and goodness. She doesn’t speak crossly or complain. She is the one who has waited on me while I’ve been in bed these past several weeks. She gave me her last piece of bubble gum yesterday. She is patient, kind, and eager to please; she is everything that I am not.
It’s not for me to say what other people should be doing. As one who sinks into despair during the worst of it, how could I judge someone else for the same? And what of God’s providence in His refusal as well? Isn’t a “no” from a spouse the same as a “no” from God? “The king’s heart is in the hand of the LORD; he directs it like a watercourse wherever he pleases. All a man’s ways seem right to him, but the LORD weighs the heart.” (Proverbs 21:1-2)
When my childbearing years end, I hope to know more of the words, “They that trust Him wholly, find Him wholly true.” Seems like God can use anything to secure our worship and dependence, but this is way for now.
“And now I am waiting for my Father’s next gift, and the new cares and labors it will bring with it. I am glad it is not left for me to decide my own lot. Welcoming a new bird into the nest, dearly as I love the rustle of their wings and the sound of their voices when they do come. And surely He knows the right moments who knows all my struggles with a certain sort of poverty, poor health and domestic care. If I could feel that all the time, as I do at this moment, how happy I would always be!” (page 215)
“The coming of each new child strengthens and deepens my desire to be what I would have it become; makes my faults more loathsome in my eyes, and elevates my whole character. What a blessed discipline of joy and of pain my married life has been and how thankful I am to reap its fruits even while pricked by its thorns!” (page 180)
(Thank you to Sarah for typing out all these quotes so I could just copy them.)
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I love that book! It sits by the pew in my kitchen right by the lamp. If ever I have a silent moment while all the munckins are busy I can ponder over it some more.
Comment by Shannon (May 3, 2007 @ 10:41 am )
I love this book too. I want everyone to read this book. It is beautiful and gives such a wonderful perspective on God’s Sovereignty and living a life for Christ.
Comment by Stacy (May 3, 2007 @ 10:48 am )
One at a time is always my response, too. I’m just not ready to bind myself to anything– even what seems right today. A mere 24 years alive leaves much that I still need to learn, but it’s enough that I know I have much to learn!
I have always loved that book in its entirety, but the line, “What a blessed discipline of joy and of pain my married life has been and how thankful I am to reap its fruits even while pricked by its thorns!” may be among my very favorites from it.
Comment by brietta (May 3, 2007 @ 1:35 pm )
Amy - I don’t know what else to say except thank you. For sharing your heart and your wisdom and your struggles. I’d say that you can’t imagine how much it’s helped me, but I think you can:) Thank you!
Comment by Shannon Miller (May 3, 2007 @ 2:34 pm )
Hooray for three under 3!
My oldest turns 3 next Thursday, and my third baby is due the Thursday after that! So we just might make it!
Anyway, I’ve never actually seen that book, but I found a quote from it when I had just found out I was pregnant with this baby. I knew the words were straight to me from God, so of course I bawled my eyes out and then hung it over my sink. “Here is a soul to train for God, and the body in which it dwells is worth all it will cost, since it is abode of a kingly tenant…yes, my precious baby, you are welcome to your mother’s heart…”
Our baby is welcome to her mother’s heart. I don’t know how I’ll do it, but God is here, and I trust Him.
Thanks Amy,
Melissa
Comment by Melissa (May 3, 2007 @ 2:58 pm )
I’m not able to get #2-6. Is that my fault?
Comment by April (May 3, 2007 @ 3:37 pm )
That book should be required reading once a year for a mother–what I always say, anyway.
And I’ll agree with Shannon in the above comment–you always say it so well.
Comment by Andrea (May 3, 2007 @ 3:46 pm )
Glad I could be of service.
Thanks to you for being one of the few women I know who recommended this book to me!
For those of you interested in reading the quotes from Stepping Heavenward, as of last night I moved my blog from blogger to wordpress. You can find the Stepping Heavenward post there too (I’m going to be deleting my blogger blog within the next couple of weeks). Here’s the link to my new blog with the same Elizabeth Prentiss quotes.
http://perennialwonder.wordpress.com/2007/04/02/lessons-from-stepping-heavenward/
Comment by Sarah (May 3, 2007 @ 4:15 pm )
I really love this post. You carry your blog name well.
Comment by Jeana (May 3, 2007 @ 5:37 pm )
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Amy, I am a new reader and am enjoying your musings. “Isn’t a no from a spouse the same as a no from God?” I would have loved to have more children, but my husband was not on board….I decided to relinquish my disappointment and try to really see him as my “head.” There can be joy in resting in what we don’t always understand. Not an easy topic to discuss, but important.
Comment by Rachel Anne (May 3, 2007 @ 6:26 pm )
Your post was very thought provoking and insightful. A new idea of letting God be God in the area of B.C. My husband recently made the decision to get off of B.C. and to let God be God. It was a very scary and frightening feeling. Especially since I haven’t quit working yet. You read so MANY different views and its soo hard to know what God really wants us to do. I liked the fact that you mentioned, maybe every family is a little different. It isn’t whom ever has the most wins…. its our decision to make with God’s guidance! Thank again! I will definitely get my Hubbie to read this with me!
Comment by lu (May 3, 2007 @ 6:36 pm )
oops! my hubbie and i made the decision!
Comment by lu (May 3, 2007 @ 6:37 pm )
Isn’t a “no” from a spouse the same as a “no” from God?
Not to be contrary, but the answer to that question would be “It depends on the reasons.” You see, if it’s a “no” because of fear, it isn’t of God — He is not the author of fear. If it’s because of wanting more materially, well, that one’s pretty self-explanitory. There are many reasons for a “no”, but not all are from God.
Comment by Bren (May 3, 2007 @ 11:31 pm )
That was a fresh, somewhat unique perspective. I enjoyed reading your thoughts. Thank you!
Comment by Kristy (May 4, 2007 @ 12:43 am )
This is so plainly written - thank you. I love that book - it has been such an inspiration, along with my Bible, for those difficult days.
Comment by Elise (May 4, 2007 @ 1:14 am )
Amy, I’ve never heard the spouse saying “no” part. I think ladies need to hear this. They don’t need to live in frustration and guilt because of a decision their husbands have made for the good of them.
I’m thankful you posted this!
Comment by Bessie (May 4, 2007 @ 8:07 am )
Your post sums up what the Lord has been teaching me for several years over the issue of welcoming children into the world. My husband and I were introduced early in our marriage to the Biblical principal that children are a blessing. Yet we struggled with what we believed over the years. We had 4 children under 4 and then 5 under 7. After our 5th child, we agreed to stop having babies, at least for a while, while my husband worked on his CFP (Certified Financial Planner) license. This involved much study and time away from the family and I was extremely busy running our household of 7. For two years, we were in agreement. Then the Lord put an overwhelming desire in my heart to have more children. It was gradual, but unceasing. It hurt and what hurt even more was the hole that I felt had crept into my marriage because by the time our baby was 2, my husband had decided that our 5 children were all we were to have. PTL, dear sweet Titus 2 friends, encouraged me to pray, love my husband and leave the issue alone. I learned a little about submission - that it’s submitting in disagreement that defines true submission. Last year, at our state’s homeschool conference, the Lord spoke to my husband about having more children in a very powerful way. He had heard it all and read it all, and until then, was unmovable in his opinion. He came out of a session (never miss an opportunity to hear Dr. Voddie Baucham!) with tears in his eyes. My husband not only was willing to have more, but desired more! My prayer for years had been for the Lord to make us one regarding the issue of having more children. I prayed for him to take the desire away from me, if that was what it would take. He took my prayers and answered them in his timing. Had I nagged my Sweetie into having more, the heart change wouldn’t have happened. We told the Lord we’d welcome more babies a year ago this month and now I am 12 weeks. This pregnancy has been my heart’s desire for several years. (Our youngest is nearly 5). I will always view the 5 year gap in ages as a season in which the Lord gave us direction and answered my prayers for my marriage and family.
Thank you for sharing that if our spouse says no, it’s a no. I would agree. However, I’d say that when our spouse says “no” (and we are hearing the Lord say pray and wait), that “no” could be a “later!”
Comment by Tina (May 4, 2007 @ 8:56 am )
I never had three under three…but I did have two that were fifteen months apart. I did wonder what God was doing then…especially since my husband lost his job right about that time. But now, I am SO loving that they are that close in age, and they are each other’s best friend (and worst enemy sometimes, but we’re working on that!)
Comment by Leigh (May 4, 2007 @ 9:11 am )
How true and challenging! Thanks for another excellent post.
Comment by Lisa (May 4, 2007 @ 10:23 am )
Amy–loved this: “he who has the most children DOESN’T win.”
thank you for your honesty about that. as my husband says: “It’s not a breeding competition.”
and also, my quiver may be smaller than some, but it can be just as full!
i’ve known women who believed God wanted them to have more children despite their severe health problems. sometimes God saying ‘no’ is your husband who cares about having a mother around for the children they already have. just a thought.
Comment by Elizabeth (May 4, 2007 @ 11:21 am )
You have said everything that I have been thinking lately. Thanks for putting my thoughts in to words:) I will be linking to this post so I don’t have to post my own.
Comment by kimm (May 4, 2007 @ 11:55 am )
Comment by kimm (May 4, 2007 @ 11:56 am )
Amy,
Thank you for a wonderful post. What a breath of fresh air!
Comment by Meagan (May 4, 2007 @ 2:16 pm )
Yes, very good post, Amy. My husband and I feel that God has spoken to us about leaving this area of life up to Him - but don’t worry about casting judgement on those who struggle.
I want to ALWAYS encourage others to take this issue before the Lord, however - because i think it is common in America at least to not even think about birth control or having that little “snip snip” surgery. We pray about houses and jobs, but not children.
I also do want to say - that I believe many couples make a decision on their own strength not to have any more children - feeling overwhelmed by the “now,” but just don’t have anyone ahead of them to say…”hold on just a little. It gets better. Don’t do something hasty that you will regret.” That’s not telling others what to do, not judging - that’s empathy saying…I’ve been in your shoes, and know how it feels. But hang in there a little longer and see how you feel about it then! Give God time to come through on your behalf!
We - as you - take each child as they come. We do not know with surety how we might react/respond should dreadful illness or devastation come. We hesitate to pin EVERYTHING on our words - when we might find that we are unable to come through some day.
And, finally - I am guessing that you mean depression as in Andrea Yates type depression? Because - in general - depression is treatable. I hesitate to say that illnesses that aren’t debilitating or terminal would mean I needed to stop having children - because then my mind can make that leap to financial struggles, or my age, or my discomfort. It is so hard for me to know where that line might be where I might find my faith “weak.” (It would probably be much nearer than I want to admit…I’m not sure how I would do facing such illness as you have.)
You are a young woman of great maturity, Amy. I don’t mean to be offensive to others - not at all - but this world doesn’t see such maturity very often. (They certainly don’t see it from ME on a consistent basis!
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For now - with good health, much love, rich relationships…but not necessarily lots that the world would consider “assets,” (ie: money, things, property, stability) we continue on this road God has laid out for us (and by saying that I preclude judgement on other people!) of accepting as He sends them. And with each pregnancy - I have wondered “how does He expect me to do this?” because the ante is always “upped.” (More responsibilities, less security, etc.) But He has ALWAYS used the child and the struggles with “handling” it all for my good and my family’s good. We just have to be able to see it with a Heavenly perspective.
Thank you for your thoughtful post, Amy. I sent the book pages this a.m.
Comment by Holly (May 4, 2007 @ 3:45 pm )
Amy, I had never read the book “Stepping Heavenward” before. I kept seeing the title pop up here and after the quotes from your last post I decided I would have to read it. I thought I had seen a copy of it around here somewhere- sure enough I found one on the bookshelf. It is only “Selections” from the book. I am almost done with it and plan to go get the whole vertion at the library next week. It has been very encouraging but quite humbling!
Thanks ladies for saying it is a must read.
Comment by Rhonda (May 5, 2007 @ 9:38 pm )
April, I fixed the links. Thanks for pointing that out.
Thanks for the comments here. I want to reply to some of the ideas later this week. I’m still not up to par, so I’ll write again when I get the chance.
Comment by Amy Scott (May 5, 2007 @ 10:40 pm )
Amy,
Thanks for the series thus far. I’m 24 and my husband and I had our first baby a couple months ago. I reacted (emotionally) badly to the pill myself - and we went on it more out of expectation than our own convictions. The best decision we ever made was to throw it out!
I’m thankful for the series because I have a lot of unbelieving friends and a lot of “this generation” colleagues - telling someone I’d like to have lots of kids (and when they ask how many, replying 5 or 6… (or more)) gets me crazy looks - why would you, college educated and able to be successful in the working world, want to stay home and raise babies?! Don’t you know they scream?…
I work currently b/c my husband is a student - but we pray and look forward to the day when I can stay home. Thanks for blogging and encouraging those of us who want something other than what everyone around us says we should want.
Comment by Shannon (May 6, 2007 @ 10:54 am )
I appreciated this quote:
“The coming of each new child strengthens and deepens my desire to be what I would have it become; makes my faults more loathsome in my eyes, and elevates my whole character. What a blessed discipline of joy and of pain my married life has been and how thankful I am to reap its fruits even while pricked by its thorns!” (page 180)
This is so true! Thank you for sharing it! (Thank to you too, Sarah!)
Comment by Theresa (May 6, 2007 @ 1:17 pm )
Great book! Definitely should be required reading. If more mother’s read that, they might feel and think differently about motherhood.
You might just be my personal hero.
Thank you for sharing your personal feelings and situation with us.
I have five kids too, but they are under 12, rather than 9!
Comment by Nicole (May 6, 2007 @ 2:28 pm )
Enjoyed your post and also all the comments. Hope the sickness starts to ease soon.
Deb
No 6 due in November
Comment by Deborah (May 7, 2007 @ 3:39 pm )
Thank you (again) for this and the others in the “3 under 3″ series. It’s so encouraging as I daily parent mine - ages 3, 2, 7 months. So many times I feel guilty running around the house doing work, cooking, taking care of the kids, etc. because I wish I could just sit down more often and read with my oldest, our daughter. When I’ve had the thought, “I wonder how it much more I would be doing with her if she were the only one,” God always reminds me of his providence… and then I usually think that I would probably be struggling just as much (maybe more because I might tend to be even more selfish) to carve out time to read, instruct, and play with just the one child. God is good, and I am thankful he is teaching me joy in self-denial. Praying for you!
Comment by Kristi (May 7, 2007 @ 10:02 pm )
Amy, thanks for continuing the series.
I think we all love that book (If anyone hasn’t read it you should NOW).
I also had 3 under 3 and number 3 was something else!!
He’s almost 3 now and I thank God for him every day, he is a really blessing and shows me more love than the others ever did.
“I am weak but thou art Strong,
Jesus keep me from all wrong,
I’ll be satisfied as long,
As you walk, as you walk close to me”.
Comment by Mummymac (May 10, 2007 @ 2:20 am )
Amy,
First, I am glad you are on the upswing. Second, you can find the entire text of Stepping Heavenward here for quoting to your heart’s content. Third, not that you are likely finding much time for reading elsewhere, but I am blogging again.
Hugs and prayers,
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We also did three under three, with the third being born with serious health issues. Haven’t read that book but I will! It always bugs me when people ask, “Are you done?” in regards to having children.
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