How to “find your spot”
Tuesday, Jun 19, 2007
My journal of our recent road trip generated some questions. In this space, I’ll tell you how I researched real estate from home. Hopefully, some things I learned might be useful to you.
Know your goals
Since we are Christians, we submit all our plans to God. Some of the things we are interested in are: living below our means so that Greg can leave the “rat race” earlier, keeping our family geographically together long-term, and growing food (for hobby, economic, health, and dependence reasons). These seem like worthwhile goals, but our first priority is “if the Lord wills.”
If you are just looking for adventure, book a whitewater rafting trip. The Ocoee River is pretty good.
Narrow your search
We were able to narrow our search to the southeastern US and Missouri for a few reasons. Climate, price, and convenience for Greg’s work travel were the three reasons for us. Florida, Georgia, and most Carolina prices were higher than we were willing to pay, and we never heard of any people who actually lived in Mississippi—so we were able to narrow our search to certain pockets of the southeast.
I’ve seen snow less than a handful of times. Greg was concerned about choosing a northern area with harsh winters (though, he and the kids would love it) when there wasn’t a reason to. I think it’s freezing in the 60’s, so I’m guessing that he just didn’t want to hear it from me for eight months a year.
Prioritize your search
Yesterday I mentioned that our four criteria for relocation were: significantly cheaper cost of living, a conservative reformed church nearby, a major city within an hour, and a climate/community hospitable to growing food. I could’ve saved a lot of time if I started with the cities wherein a perfect suitable church could be found. This was the most tricky to find. We don’t find it difficult to worship with those who are different from ourselves, but a church that adheres to the Westminster Confession is a more suitable long-term situation for us.
Begin with the criteria that will be most difficult to fulfill and work from there. I found a ton of great deals, perfect homes, and babbling creeks. The problem was that none of them met any of the other criteria. I could’ve saved countless hours if I would’ve thought of prioritizing first.
If you don’t have a work-from-home or independent income source, I’d guess that securing a job would be the first priority. If you work in a profession with high turnover rates, such as nurses and teachers, this is usually not a problem.
Know your search tools
It wasn’t terribly difficult to spent hundreds of hours over the course of several years looking at real estate. I happen to be a real estate junkie. (I even roped Greg into getting his real estate license for our use.) The problem was that I was wandering aimlessly. Never fear, though, you can start here.
I know this list doesn’t exhaust every search tool, but here are a few that I found quite helpful.
(1) Church denomination websites, under “Find a Church”
(2) City Data dot Com, for helpful demographics and usually a list of schools
(3) United Country, for real estate not found in MLS
(4) Realtor dot Com, follow the link to the listing agent’s website for more pictures and information and make sure you use the “advanced” search tool
(5) RealTracs, middle Tennessee property finder
(6) Land and Farm, properties for sale by owner
(7) Google [town, state] yellow pages, this is a quick way to browse the area: churches, hospitals, or whatever
(8) HSLDA by state, a quick reference for homeschool laws state-by-state
(9) Talk to people (especially locals), ask questions
(10) Cost of living calculator
* Please feel free to add more helpful sites in the comment box.
Hit the road
While you can save a lot of time by doing legwork beforehand, there’s nothing like being there. I can’t tell you how many times we pulled in somewhere and I said, “Uh, this doesn’t look anything like the pictures. There was no mention of the interstate behind the house on the description…”
Conversely, when we drove through the northern Tennessee town of Livingston a year ago, the charm of the downtown square left an impression on me. It’s a nice place.
Have fun
Patience is a virtue. We’re the kind of folks who enjoy roots in the community. I was born in Orlando and made my first move an hour away six years ago. That’s it.
Considering a move can be a stressful thing, especially if you have houseful of little ones. Make sure your goals are worthy ones. If you’re not happy where you’re at, you won’t be happy wherever you’re going.
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Thanks for sharing a bit about how you went about searching. It all seems like very good advice.
Comment by Jana (sidetrack'd) (June 19, 2007 @ 11:44 am )
Great advice! We’re waiting on the Lord for a church for my husband to pastor. We have no clue where we are moving to. But when we do find out we’ll be on our own search for a piece of land (a few acres) and a home to fit us all (9, including my mom). Thanks for the advice. Keep us posted…it sounds like a fun adventure!
Hugs,
Carmen
Comment by Carmen (June 19, 2007 @ 12:43 pm )
Hi Amy! I just found your blog a few weeks ago & have enjoyed reading. I wanted to tell you that we live about 20mins south of Nashville in Williamson County, so I’m somewhat familiar with some of the areas that you have mentioned & being a real estate junkie myself, I too could spend way too much time online looking at houses/property–whether moving or not!! I LOVE realtracs, that’s definitely how I ruled out(& in) houses when we moved here from Nashville about a year ago. I also agree with you about driving to the location. I saved our realtor(& us & the seller) alot of time by doing what we called “drive bys” & seeing that the house was located on a corner(not something that we preferred) or that the front yard was HUGE but the back yard was tiny(which is where we’d prefer the kids to play, if we had to be in a true subdivision), etc etc etc.
I know the Lord will lead you to the perfect fit for your family!!
Blessings!
RoseAnne(mommy to 5 ages 6&1/2 down to twins that will be 2 the end of July!! Very busy but VERY BLESSED!!!)
Comment by RoseAnne (June 19, 2007 @ 1:28 pm )
I have no reason to move, but what you said, “If you’re not happy where you’re at, you won’t be happy wherever you’re going.” That really rang true for me. Sometimes I’d just like to escape, but that’s not what the Lord wants for us. He is our refuge, not change.
Comment by Amy Roller (June 19, 2007 @ 2:20 pm )
Thanks for sharing! Great advice! I look forward to reading more. Do you homeschool your children?
Comment by Mimi Rothschild (June 19, 2007 @ 2:50 pm )
Your post brought me to tears. Seriously. We are in the process of “finding our spot” as well. I love that God had you put this into words on your blog today…Thank you.
beck
Comment by mamabeck (June 19, 2007 @ 4:38 pm )
“…and we never heard of any people who actually lived in Mississippi”
Seriously??? There are actually lots of very nice (educated) people that live here and it IS one of the most beautiful places in the South…. my family has lived here for 8 generations! You just might be missing out (smile)!! You would absolutely fall in love if you saw the breathtaking farm that my family has owned for several generations. I have traveled the world (literally) and it is still one of the most beautiful places I’ve ever seen. At any rate, happy hunting! I have been enjoying reading about your “adventures”, and wish you all the best!!!
Comment by Jennifer R. (June 20, 2007 @ 1:26 am )
Thank you Amy for so graciously sharing your tools.
I will be putting them to use, for sure…when? I don’t know, but good to have.
Comment by Andrea (June 20, 2007 @ 6:24 am )
Just wanted to say that it is great that you are obviously feeling much better at this stage in your pregnancy, I know you may not be full-power but if you are able to think through these recent posts let alone sit upright long enough to type them you must be getting there.
Praise God.
Comment by Mummymac (June 20, 2007 @ 8:01 am )
Just wanted to say a quick “Hello” since I haven’t commented lately!! We are actually in the middle of a move right now, and haven’t found “the spot,” but our house has already sold! (That’s a praise, not a complaint!)
I love that-so true!
One helpful thing we’ve done is to Google map the address, and then look at the satellite images of that location. That has helped us to rule out those w/ the interstate in the back yard or railroad tracks in the front!
BTW, I would still LOVE to have you in AR if your search hasn’t ended yet!!
Comment by Anita (June 20, 2007 @ 8:42 am )
Yes.
Jennifer R., Good to hear from you. Glad you have a sense of humor. I was getting a little discouraged with a whole day going by and not hearing from anyone in Mississippi! Thanks for chiming in!
Mummymac, Thanks for commenting about my health. Unfortunately, I began vomiting again yesterday. I’m 20 weeks, so it’s a little discouraging. But you are right about the last part– Praise God.
Good call. I forgot about that one because that’s Greg’s job!
Comment by Amy Scott (June 20, 2007 @ 9:07 am )
“Unfortunately, I began vomiting again yesterday.”
Amy - i did this, too. I had a couple of pretty good weeks in there (not sick everyday) and then the bottom fell out. The exhaustion and nausea hit worse than ever - my doctor actually had my heart checked! The only thing good about having a c-section (and I mean the ONLY good thing) is that I have a deadline. I’m at 27 weeks and I know I won’t go past 38 1/2 so I can begin the countdown - just ten weeks left and then I get to meet the prize :>
Comment by Shannon MIller (June 20, 2007 @ 11:38 am )
Just wanted to join in with Jennifer’s comments on living in Mississippi. Despite all the bad press we usually receive, it is a beautiful state and I am thankful that the Lord has “set my boundaries in pleasant places”(Ps. 16:6)in the state of Mississippi. Aside from the beautiful countryside and the hospitable,giving people (MS may rank last in many things and be one of the poorest states, but we rank #1 in the country in charitable giving) more importantly to me and my family is to live in an area where the Lord is raising up a remnant of believers who are crying out to the Lord to “come and heal our land” We are seeing the Lord work and move in might and power and are believing Him to send a revival and wake up His body to take the nations for Christ. Why can’t He use a humble, poor state, that is thought of as “the least of these” in camparison to the rest of the country ,to begin a great revival that will take this nation back for Christ? We are believing God BIG in Mississippi. “Not by might or power but by My Spirit, says the LORD Almighty.:” Zech. 4:6
Let me encourage you in your search for a place for your family to pray and ask the Lord if He would have you move to an area to be salt and light - an area of brokeness and hopelessness. If believers would return to these places and have a heart for the lost and broken people Jesus does, He tells us that “Your people will rebuild the ancient ruins and will raise up the age-old foundations; you will be called Repairer of Broken Walls,Restorer of Streets with Dwellings Is. 58:12
Comment by Leigh-Anne (June 20, 2007 @ 1:54 pm )
Amy,
Thank you for the links. I have been using HSLDA to eliminate states but the others will be a new helpful resource.
I’m sorry that you’re vomiting again. I remember how difficult that was with our third child and I’ll pray that you will be feeling better soon.
Good luck with your home search!
Karen
Comment by Karen J (June 20, 2007 @ 2:08 pm )
Thanks, Amy!
Newt
Comment by Newt (June 20, 2007 @ 2:40 pm )
We are in the process of going rural right now. So RIGHT NOW, in fact, that we are moving THIS weekend. 15 acre farmstead…right in the heart of the prairie. Straight from the city.
Very interesting, this process. It takes a few years of planning, and we’ll see if it is worth it… My hunch is that it is! I look forward to observing the rest of your journey.
By the by, where we are moving, it can get to -35 degrees with windchill. Can you imagine THAT??
Comment by a. borealis (June 20, 2007 @ 4:07 pm )
Amy, so sorry you are getting the pukies again. I bet those few weeks of feeling better feel like a teaser now, huh?
A good website to check out real estate is: http://immobel.com/ . Much better than realtor.com in my opinon (more pictures, better search results at times). Thought you might like to know!
Comment by Kelly (Mama Russell) (June 20, 2007 @ 4:12 pm )
Leaving the Florida coast?
I cannot imagine!
Won’t you miss our beautiful Atlantic ocean?
Comment by keri (June 20, 2007 @ 5:31 pm )
i love your blog.i live in rural missouri and love it we have been here for 11 years after my hubby retired from the navy.the homeschool laws are wonderful in Mo.and we have a long growing season.land is fairly cheap.the best thing for me is that we have 4 seasons.i love that.if i can be any help please email me.
Comment by martha crawford (June 20, 2007 @ 11:32 pm )
I actually don’t care for the beach…
We’ve asked lots of advice over the years. Without question, 99% of people say that the only thing they’d change is that they would’ve done it sooner.
I apologize that my joke was lost somewhere there. I’ve never been to MS or heard anything about it.
~Thanks for all the info, everyone.
Comment by Amy Scott (June 21, 2007 @ 9:30 am )
Hi Amy, If you would consider a move to KY, we’d love to have you : ) Great PCA church, easy HS laws. We are 45 minutes south of Lexington in Berea….Moved here from Orlando (then a brief time in Atlanta)…..couldn’t be more pleased with the people, the prices, and small town life…even the refridgerator repair man knew who built our house when I told him where we lived : )
Comment by lisa (June 22, 2007 @ 7:52 am )
SO GLAD to read that church was one of your #1 priorities!! So many people put this last…”Umm, we’ll pray that God will provide a good church when we get there” and then I get phone calls from disgruntled friends who hate church because the only church near them has clowns performing during the interpretive offering dance.
Ahem. So hooray! for the church. Fight for it!
Anyway. You made me happy.
Comment by Rachel (June 22, 2007 @ 1:59 pm )
too funny! I mean your writing not the actual practice! ;0)
So sorry about feeling ill again, Amy. yuck.
Comment by Lyn (June 22, 2007 @ 4:00 pm )
I just found your blog through Jules at “My Two Cents.” We moved up to northwestern NC from the east coast of Florida last August, and used several of your tricks for finding a place. We settled on our state the same way you did — by ruling out places that were too cold or that we didn’t know much about, some sites I forget to rule out areas with high crime and pollution, and Realtor.com to find affordable homes. We also looked for a church nearby, but the internet wasn’t so great for this part.
Anyway, I wanted to put in a plug for North Carolina! A friend of ours attends a very nice, very conservative reformed Presbyterian church (the kind with five point Calvinism) in Mount Airy, and we are only 40 minutes from Winston-Salem. Coming from Florida, the housing is extremely affordable, and there are quite a few homeschoolers around. And, we are far enough away from the coast that we no longer worry about hurricanes! (I lived all my life in Florida, and never worried much about hurricanes, but loosing power for weeks at a time after Frances one year and Jeanne the next changed my thinking.)
Comment by Melora in NC (June 22, 2007 @ 5:50 pm )
Hi Amy,
This is too funny, we are looking into that area as well. Can you imagine some of us who post find The Lord’s leading to that area? How wonderful would that be. The Amish are a plus, great people. I worked in Lancaster PA for a time and came to know some wonderful people.
I was a little fearful about starting over a WHOLE new life, then we found out my husbands uncle and his cousins are living in Summertown which is very close. Gods people are everywhere which is a comfort.
God is good always,
Maryanne
Keep us posted. Also, this was more then likley already addressed, but I am recovering from a bad fall. Right down the steps, so my sitting up time is limited. It seems from my read of your past posts our families theology come from the same convictions. Did you check out a church?
Comment by Maryanne (June 25, 2007 @ 12:36 am )