Book review: Supernatural Childbirth
Friday, Jul 13, 2007
My first four births didn’t leave me terribly excited to do it again. They were typical medically-managed hospital births with all the IV potions, ice chips, and monitors that come with it. My fifth hospital birth, however, left me fearful of childbirth. This birth was medically uneventful; psychologically, it was a disaster.
My Christian faith doesn’t allow for this kind of fear. Since it is not grounded in faith, it does not please God. (Hebrews 11:6) Therefore, I understand that I have two options: overcome fear or displease God. I’m choosing the former, though this leaves me with much work to do.
As part of my commitment to overcoming fear in childbirth, I’ve been educating myself with books on the subject as much as time will allow. Though I don’t buy into the phrase, “God helps those who help themselves,” there is a certain aspect in which God works while we work. Sometimes God steps in and changes everything, and sometimes He enables us to walk confidently on the path He’s called us to take. This is what the verse means when it says, “Work out your salvation with fear and trembling.” (Phil. 2:12) We work and God works.
There is one particular book, Supernatural Childbirth, I avoided reading because I didn’t buy into the concept of “painless childbirth.” I’d heard about women who had painless deliveries, but I kept my thoughts about the matter to myself. Upon a recent recommendation, however, I finally read it.
It was only a few pages into the book, and it was easy to tell where all the controversy surrounding the book came from. Author Jackie Mize makes some pretty bold claims, which I will address next. Before that, we need to understand the title, Supernatural Childbirth. We all know what “childbirth” means, her husband Terry Mize describes what is meant by “supernatural” in the book’s forward:
Something that Jackie and I want people to understand is that to us, supernatural childbirth is being able to believe God to get pregnant, carry that baby to full term, and have a healthy mommy deliver a healthy baby.
Yet, just a few pages later (p. 22), Jackie elaborates on what she really means with the concept:
When I refer to supernatural childbirth, I’m talking strictly about being able to conceive and to have babies with a pregnancy free from nausea, morning sickness, pain, moodiness, depression and without fear of any kind; then going through the entire labor without pain, and through the delivery without stitches and anesthetic. I’m talking about using the Word of God to overcome, change and make things better.
There are so many foundational doctrinal disagreements between the author and I that it is incredibly difficult to know where to begin. The author is coming from a “word of faith” perspective on Scripture. Some people refer to this as a “name it and claim it” theology, and my foundational disagreement with this hermeneutic is not merely traditional—as in, I’m a frozen chosen Presbyterian and therefore intolerant of the unknown—but substantive.
I began my childhood in the Assemblies of God, moved onto non-denominational churches, and then finally attended home churches as a teenager where everyone had secret names, prophesied, and waited for orders to move to the mountains for the end times. I’ve been “healed” by Benny Hinn, made faith promises to Robert Tilton, been prophesied over by a few of the big names, and received all my theological training as a child by these folks. I’m not a stranger.
One of the reasons I’m forever indebted to Elisabeth Elliot is because I locked myself in my room when I turned 16 and read all her books. This is how real faith took root and grew. She taught me that God is interested in me offering myself wholly to Him to use at His disposal. This is what He requires of me. The message I received from my childhood training was that God wanted to bless me with money, wealth, and happiness, and if He wasn’t (which He wasn’t), the problem was my lack of faith.
Hogwash.
Supernatural Childbirth is based on the erroneous presupposition that God exists to make us happy. There are Scriptures that we can pull out of context to support this belief, but it is not in line with the Bible’s whole counsel. Many of the great heroes of the faith, according to this logic, were terribly in want of faith: Job (who lost all his wealth and children), Stephen (who was stoned to death), and the apostle Paul (who suffered imprisonment, shipwrecks, and beatings)—just to name a few. Instead, when we understand that God exists for His glory, and that the chief end of God is to Glorify God, and God told us that working all things for our good is His good pleasure, we are able to endure these “light and momentary” trials, knowing that He has our good and His glory in mind.
If you remember the story of Joseph, Joseph’s brothers sell him into slavery, he is imprisoned, and eventually he becomes a ruler over Egypt. Then the Bible gives us the punch line in Genesis 50:20, “As for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good.”
Where was Joseph’s deliverance? Could not God have prevented this? Was Joseph’s faith to blame? No, God did not merely use the events for good, but He ordained them. John Piper notes, “The word ‘it’ is a feminine singular suffix that can only agree with the antecedent feminine singular noun, ‘evil.’… Psalm 105:17 says about Joseph’s coming to Egypt, ‘[God] sent a man before them, Joseph, who was sold as a slave.’ God sent him. God did not find him there owing to evil choices, and then try to make something good come of it. Therefore this text stands as a kind of paradigm for how to understand the evil will of man within the sovereign will of God.”
Consider how the Scriptures teach us that God ordains all things:
In Deuteronomy 32:39 God says, “There is no god besides Me; It is I who put to death and give life. I have wounded and it is I who heal, And there is no one who can deliver from My hand.”
In Exodus 4:11, God says to Moses, when he was fearful about speaking, “Who has made man’s mouth? Who makes him dumb, or deaf, or seeing, or blind? Is it not I, the LORD?”
When Job’s wife urges him to curse God for his calamities, he replies, “Shall we indeed accept good from God and not accept adversity” (Job 2:10). And then the author of the book commends Job by saying, “In all this, Job did not sin with his lips.”
Amos 3:6 says, “If a calamity occurs in a city has not the LORD done it?”
Satan is real but never, ever out of God’s control. Mark 1:27 says of Jesus, “He commands even the unclean spirits, and they obey Him.” And Luke 4:36 says, “With authority and power He commands the unclean spirits and they come out.”
Isaiah 45:7 says God is the “The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing well-being and creating calamity; I am the LORD who does all these.”
Jackie Mize believes all infertility is not of God and is something to be remedied by more faith. (chapter 5) Though the Mizes do not mention stillbirths specifically, their words offer no hope to these sorrowful circumstances. Tragedy is not “supernatural childbirth” (per the definition)—as if God was absent from this hell or that the mother’s lack of faith is to blame.
While stillbirth is uncommon, many women experience a miscarriage sometime during their childbearing years. On page 43, Mize declares that she would not have a baby prematurely because “we paid our tithes.” (Mal. 3:10-11) Miscarriages, or “casting your fruit before its time”, will not happen to those who tithe, according to Mize.
Statements like the following lead one to believe that God exists to serve us, and not that we exist to serve Him: “You should have a perfect family too. Four may not be the perfect number for you, but however many you want, you can have them by using the Word of God. The Word will produce for you just as it did for us.” (pp. 55-56) As if the Word of God exists to do our bidding!
Throughout the book, the author cites her experience as proof that God works according to our faith. For example, she was told that she could never have children, but after standing on the Word of God, she did. The problem with most of the stories told here is that she never mentions any medical terminology, proofs, or whys. If she couldn’t have children, why not? Saying that God healed her from some mysterious disease is just ambiguous. Now, I believe that God can heal, but these stories, even from a non-critical point of view, lack substance.
The entire book hinges on the interpretation of Genesis 3:16, “Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and they desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.” Jackie Mize and many others believe that, “Jesus bore that sorrow, that grief, so that we don’t have to. Isn’t that good news? I don’t have to bear sorrow and grief!” (p. 26)
This road—the one that Jesus walked so you don’t have to—is the path Mize leads you down so that you can experience a painless birth. When you begin feeling pain, you need to curse the devil and get back to believing.
A quick look at many godly examples in the Scriptures show us that they bore sorrow and grief due to no lack of faith (think of Job), but to the greater purposes and good of the glory of God. There is no explanation in Supernatural Childbirth of Scriptures’ hard words: “take up your cross,” “the fellowship of His sufferings” or “in this world you will have trouble.” If you have trouble, it is because you do not believe enough.
Did Jesus break the curse? Yes. Yet, we live in the tension of the “already, not yet” in that Jesus triumphed over sin and death, but we don’t realize the fullness of that in this life. If it were so, we would not die. Death is a curse. Why not use The Power of Faith to triumph over your sin and impending death? Why just use it for childbirth?
The victory is ours in the end, but we experience the consequences of sin here in this life. We are reminded of the goodness of the glory of God whenever we have a toothache, a migraine, or a broken down car on a deserted highway in the middle of the night. Why is this a reminder? Because this place is not our Home! If we could escape sorrow and grief now, why would we long for heaven?!
So, the question must be asked, Who am I to critique this method of painless childbirth, when I obviously have no experience in the subject? Isn’t my bias toward pain influenced by my previous experience, thereby disqualifying me from being objective on the subject?
One does not need to experience a painless birth to have great faith. Faith is not measured by the intensity of contractions. Many factors influence the inherent ease at which some women give birth—size of the baby, pelvic capacity, fetal presentation, labor positioning. Many physicians and midwives note that women who are able to “let go,” “give in,” and “surrender” to the process typically have shorter, easier deliveries. In fact, head-strong women tend to have more trouble, as they don’t like to feel out of control and so resist the process.
Jackie Mize gets it right when she says this, “The pain women experience in childbirth comes mostly from fear and lack of knowledge.” (p. 32) If she began the book with this statement and spent its entirety educating women on the childbirth process, she’d have a book worth reading. Except for the vague references of the uterus being a muscle one must relax when it contracts, there is no real childbirth education. It is more of an education in substance-less faith—one that places it’s hope in what God can do for us and not in who He is.
In conclusion, there are many things a woman can do proactively to ease the pain of childbirth: acquire more education, seek the labor support of another woman, and decide on a safe, comfortable environment for starters. We should ask God to comfort us and to ease our pain in His mercy. This is good and right. Yet, the comfort we receive from our faith in God is not that He always takes away all our pain on our command, but that if we should make our beds in hell, He is there.
Amen.
I can’t help but wonder, what will sustain this poor woman if God’s providence allows her to lose a baby?
Comment by Christy B (July 13, 2007 @ 9:05 pm )
Great post Amy. Fantastic review/critique of the book. I haven’t read the book and am quite glad now that I haven’t. I don’t comment often, but feel compelled to here.
We are blessed to have three beautiful, wonderful, boisterous and happy children who love God. In the past 2 years we have also endured the heart break of multiple miscarriages and now infertility.
Do we know why? No.
Do we doubt God? No.
Do we lack faith? No.
Do we trust God? Absolutely, totally and wholly.
Do we believe Jesus died and was raised again for our salvation? Yes.
Do we believe that surrending wholly to Jesus can change lives and circumstances? Yes.
Do we believe that God, through the power of the Holy Spirit, can do anything, anywhere, anytime? Yes.
Are we sure we will have more children? No.
Does that make us doubt God’s sovereign will in our lives? No.
Does that mean we lack faith? No.
Faith is not measured by the intensity of contractions! I agree. Nor is faith measured by family size (either large or small). Nor is pain in childbirth a lack of faith!
So Amy, bless you girl as your prepare for the birth of your baby. May God help ease your fears. May you have peace and confidence as the time for baby’s arrival approaches.
Mel (your friend in Australia)
Comment by Mel (July 13, 2007 @ 9:19 pm )
Excellent post. In doing such a thorough review of this book, you’ve addressed very eloquently MANY of the problems with the “Name It/Claim It” way of thinking. Good work.
Comment by Rocks In My Dryer (July 13, 2007 @ 9:23 pm )
Thank you so much for this book review. I am expecting my fifth baby, and am also educating myself as much as possible about the childbirth process. (My husband finds this amusing, since I have done this so many times before, yet am doing more research than in the past in preparation for this birth…)
I agree with you that the problems with this book seem unrelated to childbirth; rather it seems as though the fallacies are mainly theological. The “Word of Faith” movement is so detrimental and damaging. Thanks for giving us ‘weapons’ in Scripture to tear down those theological strongholds.
Warmly,
Comment by tami@ourhouse (July 13, 2007 @ 9:42 pm )
Thank you for writing this post. I have be made to feel a fool for not being able to rid my self of extreme nausea during pregnancy and for not being able to ‘move’ a tubal pregnancy to my womb. Told I didn’t have enough faith. I never bought it intellectually but emotionally the damage was great.
Comment by Shari (July 13, 2007 @ 9:45 pm )
Bravo! What a wonderfully acurate review of that book. I actually read that book when I was pregnant with my second son. He was diagnosed with a congenital heart defect and later passed away at 18 days old. As our son lay dying, one of our (former) “name it claim it” type friends had the gall to ask if we had prayed IN FAITH over our son for his healing. As if our lack of faith was the cause of God choosing not to heal our son in his short lifetime. This type theology goes way to far off the mark! You’ll also notice that Mize and her husband have to “explain” away the PAIN several women still had to deal with. By committing my childbearing to the Lord, I had three successful and manageable labors, and three beautiful sons! I am so glad that it is NOT up to my amount of faith for God to be in control!
Comment by Jana (July 13, 2007 @ 10:00 pm )
Fantastic post, Amy.
What a cleverly deceptive perspective that whole “name it-claim-it” faith-healer stuff is. And yet, what terrible destruction it can wreak in the lives of women!!!
Thank you for sharing a corrective perspective.
Comment by Elizabeth (July 13, 2007 @ 10:12 pm )
Wow- I’m saddened to know that jibberish like that book has fallen into vulnerable hands, and led women to believe such falsehood. I’m pregnant with a son, and we are toying with the idea of giving him ‘Hazard’ (after Oliver Hazard Perry) as a middle name. Your post has given me another reason to seriously consider it.
Hebrews 11:35-40 came to my mind when I read this post-
“Others were tortured and refused to be released, so that they might gain a better resurrection. Some faced jeers and flogging, while still others were chained and put in prison. They were stoned; they were sawed in two; they were put to death by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated— the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, and in caves and holes in the ground.
These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised. God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect.”
Ah, sweet, truthful Scripture.
Comment by Valerie@Consider It Done (July 13, 2007 @ 10:23 pm )
What a wonderfully thorough review. I too am expecting (not long before you, actually) and can relate a little, perhaps, to the fear that you are going through.
On the whole name it and claim it thing…. I call it “blab it and grab it”. Such a flawed misinterpretation of a wonderful scripture (which has completely gone whoosh out of my head. I will try and find it.)
Comment by Jenny (July 13, 2007 @ 10:39 pm )
I personally cannot do much research when I am pregnant, because it tends to make me fearful. I have done a lot of praying. Each of my 10 pregnancies and 3 miscarriages had different trials. As I felt concerned or fearful about the pregnancy, I would remind God that He had made me, the child, and that He was able to take care of the problem. Not of course that God needs to be reminded but He does like for us to remember what He can do. None of my pregnancies were painfree or problem free, but I did grow closer to the Lord and have a stronger faith in the Lord. As I look at each of my children I am reminded of the lesson in faith that child’s pregnancy taught me. I didn’t really like the problems I experienced, but I am thankful that the problems led me to learn more abomut God.
Comment by Sharlene (July 13, 2007 @ 11:39 pm )
One of the persistent phrases on one of the boards I frequent is “If your body grows a big baby, your body can birth a big baby” I was very gratified recently to see people start objecting to the presumption in that statement. Now the site is not Christian (far from it even) so it should not surprise me. OTOH, the “idea” seems to be very Christian “You are made to have a baby” Yes. As women, that was one of the purposes God created us for.
However, since then, sin entered the world, and with it death. And the world we live in now is not the perfect creation that once was. The world is running down, including the whole “naturalness” of giving birth.
My own sister, after 3 children, is convinced her body does not know how to go into labor or progress. So this kind of presumption — well it says if you need an induction, or a C-section, or anything else, there is something wrong with YOU. Not acknowledging there could be something wrong with your body.
Comment by My Boaz's Ruth (July 14, 2007 @ 12:33 am )
Well said, Amy.
Comment by Lindsay (July 14, 2007 @ 1:24 am )
Well done for reading the book and then going to the trouble to write about it. My brother professed salvation and convinced, for a while, 6 other members of my family that they too were saved. Sadly not so. He believes every form of tripe doctrine out there and health/ wealth is only just one of them. My mum has MS over forty years now and he has her believing she is sick because of her lack of faith, a belief strengthened by a lot of the false teaching on TV like the God channel. It’s enough to break my heart.. BUT… God can do anything and so I pray and I wait. Time has begun to show my family that I am sot the same as my brother and slowly but surely things are changing. “Let your light so shine before men that they may see your good works and glorify our Father in heaven”. God continue to bless you and yours.
Comment by Ruth (July 14, 2007 @ 7:38 am )
Great review Amy. My husband was given 36 hours notice of a deployment… 10 days before my #4 was born. It was a truly horrible time. The friends who were my support team (and they were great during the birth) tried to get me to read the book so I would have a pain free birth. I was so upset that my husband would not be there to help me, then here was all this pressure to be pain free too!!! My stomach still gets tense at the thought of those following few months.
Glad you gave the review.
Comment by Anonymous (July 14, 2007 @ 8:08 am )
Amy - Just wanted to say thanks for having the courage to write such a post.
Unfortunately too many Christian families out there are easily led into theses strange beliefs.
May the Lord grant you a delivery like mine this time
Comment by Mummymac (July 14, 2007 @ 8:08 am )
Powerful and beautifully written. What a great Bible study to start my Saturday morning! Even though childbearing is no longer an issue for me, these truths transcend to so many areas of my life. My kidneys are failing and I will be facing a transplant in the next year or so. It is such a temptation to think that if I only had enough faith, or prayed hard enough, I could return to perfect health. We all desire that kind of control, which of course we don’t have! But God is good, and His ways are perfect.
Thank you, Amy!
Comment by Beth (July 14, 2007 @ 8:52 am )
Thanks, Amy, for letting me know I never have to read this heretical book.
Comment by Lisa (July 14, 2007 @ 8:52 am )
Amy.
Thanks for your insightful review of this book. Definitely one I won’t need to read! Thanks for preaching the truth too and reminding us of it- (that we exist to glorify God, that pain and suffering are part of being in this sinful world which helps us to long for our true home, and God uses it in our lives, etc.).
I think you hit upon some of the keys of reducing pain in your last paragraph so I pray that the Lord will continue to prepare you and give you faith to fight the fear. And I pray that for myself as well. My due date is right with yours 11/8.
God Bless you.
Julie
Comment by Julie (July 14, 2007 @ 9:33 am )
“There are Scriptures that we can pull out of context to support this belief, but it is not in line with the Bible’s whole counsel. Many of the great heroes of the faith, according to this logic, were terribly in want of faith: Job (who lost all his wealth and children), Stephen (who was stoned to death), and the apostle Paul (who suffered imprisonment, shipwrecks, and beatings)—just to name a few.”
As a former Word of Faith adherent, I remember being taught that those folks in the Bible went through those things so that we could learn from their mistakes. Example: Job lost all because of his fear or lack of faith (Job 3:25). Nevermind the fact that God Himself said Job was blameless and upright, feared God and shunned evil and that only that which is of faith pleases God.
One of the foundational elements of Word of Faith thinking is the that-was-then-this-is-now approach to the Bible. Those people like Paul and Stephen when through those hard times so that we wouldn’t have to. This is the time of the Latter Rain when God wants to pour out health and wealth to those who have enough faith to receive it. Hogwash.
There is so much wrong in WoF theology and I thank Him for bringing me out. Thank you also, Amy, for this insightful reveiw. I read an article the other day that WoF theology is spreading like wildfire in Africa. They’re preying on the poor and ignorant. Pray for them.
Beth
Comment by beth (July 14, 2007 @ 9:36 am )
Good book review. Your sharing reminds of 1 Corinthians 10(vs. 13, especially) that many in the experiential “name it claim it” faith forget(how does one make verses talk about His stripes healing being all about the physical when surrounding and cross-referenced verses focus on being in Christ versus Adam and spiritual life versus spiritual death?). Well, at least the last part is downplayed through woven throughout the entire Word of God: bear and endure by God’s grace in His power/strength what God orchestrates(just as Job was righteous and blameless and God presented him to Satan for the trying and proving of real saving faith that was Job’s by God’s grace…that included Job’s increase in several ways). Happiness…blessed is he and she…only is because of His righteousness/holiness in which suffering is part and parcel. While wrapped in this earthsuit.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/1Cr/1Cr010.html#top
Comment by Mrs. Burrows (July 14, 2007 @ 10:00 am )
Of course I don’t need to read about anymore childbirth books,but I read your review .Good points brought up that can apply to other areas of life.
I have been told also that I don’t have enough faith because things haven’t gone my way-Like what ever happenned to God’s way and His plans for us.
Comment by Tammy (July 14, 2007 @ 11:09 am )
Good stuff.
Have you read Debra Evans’ book “The Christian Woman’s Guide to Childbirth?” It’s nothing extra deep or revelatory, but the fact that she addresses the process from a Christian point of view is very nice (a realistic Christian perspective - she doesn’t preach pain free births!). I’m sure you’ve heard of other books out there as well, which are excellent (and humanistic/new age-y (if you feel the need to label them…)) such as Ina May’s Guide to Childbirth and The Thinking Woman’s Guide to a Better Birth.
May God be the Refuge for all of your fears.
-Carole
Comment by Carole (July 14, 2007 @ 11:49 am )
I’ve been blessed with one pregnancy and one daughter and wanted a faith-filled, pain free pregnancy. I did end up having that with the help of an epidural and some very awesome nurses who were on duty the day I was induced. I came to the conclusion as I was sitting there that day that the use of drugs or having a c-section wasn’t nearly as important a factor as delivering a healthy baby. I knew that from the moment we conceived, we were that child’s parents and needed to make good choices for her life. I trusted that God could take away the pain, but He taught me something even better. I must ask for the desire of my heart and He will fulfill it in a way that I do not understand. It’s like the story of all the miracles in the Gospel of John. People ask for things and then He gives it to them in a way that is better than they expected. My lack of pain allowed me to not die that day or to be so exhausted that I couldn’t care for my darling daughter as she came into the world. I could not have prayed any more than I did, I could not have surrounded myself and that room with anymore faith and Gospel, because Christ was there and present and He walked with me through the pain, which is far better than no pain at all.
Comment by Christina Puntigam (July 14, 2007 @ 11:59 am )
So true. The first commenter hit the nail on the head. Should this woman encounter a trial of any kind her house of cards will crumble. Imagine the weight of having to deal with tragedy if you believe that it was your short coming that caused it. Your sorrow would be accompanied by guilt and despair.
The Lord is so gracious to grant us understanding of His word and free us from that. Such comfort comes from knowing that the Lord does all things according to the counsel of his own will.
Comment by Erin (July 14, 2007 @ 12:14 pm )
What blows me away continually, especially here in the blog world is how we Christian women tend to make the entire childbirth process a measuring stick for our own and each other’s holiness. It is astounding. I simply sit back and shake my head. (how many children you have, how many losses you have had, how you birth, who does your prenatal care, how you feed the baby and on and on and on)
I realize motherhood IS indeed a holy persuit but we Christian women have too long had loose lips in this department singling each other out for every single detail.
I am the mother to five children. Three on earth, two in heaven. My husband is a carrier of a rare genetic disease, and 50% of the time we will pass the gene on. Out of our 3 living children, 2 have the disease. As much as I want to have enough faith to believe that “name it claim it beautiful pregnancy” stuff Mize talks about, it ain’t going to happen. I am a Christian, yet I do believe in science (I think they go together, God and science). Our “faulty” dna is there, faith or not.
It is deeply offensive to mothers like me when other mothers haul out the childbirth & holiness measuring stick and size me up (especially when they do not know our story).
I think this whole area is something we need to learn how to tighten our lips about once again and remember that it is a very private matter between husbands and wives. Why on earth we feel like we must discuss it to death is beyond me.
Anyhow….good stuff to ponder as always Amy.
Comment by Lindsey (July 14, 2007 @ 12:35 pm )
Well said!
Comment by Rebekah (July 14, 2007 @ 12:41 pm )
Amy, thanks for being brave to address this issue. I read that book a long time ago, and had many of the same concerns you did. Plus, I’ve walked the miscarriage road too many times, a c-section once, severe hemmorhaging once, two relatively “easy” births without complications, and one fight for a vaginal birth after the c-section. The greatest testimony is overcoming the fear. I spent most of this latest pregnancy (after two miscarriages) fighting fear with God’s Word, on a daily basis. Pain in childbirth because of not understanding one’s body is one thing, but to put it on a spiritual level and tie it in with how much faith one has is hogwash. So I will be praying that God sustains you and gives you grace to bear up under the tough times of this pregnancy. I think it was Ravi Zacharias who challenged me once with “who has more faith- the one who believes he will be healed because *he* has enough faith, or the one who lives with pain/chronic illness/etc day after day and still trusts God?”
In my opinion, you have already demonstrated much more faith in God than many women, who would have decided after the first or definitely the second difficult pregnancy that they were done having children, and would have made decisive actions to reinforce that choice. Hang in there, Amy, and keep blessing us through your blog.
Comment by flutemom (July 14, 2007 @ 12:52 pm )
This was a great review. I am so glad I haven’t read this book. This baby (just eight weeks to go!) is number four for me and I still struggle with the feeling of guilt or incompetance or whatever about the fact that I have to have c-sections. It’s a constant struggle to turn away from the thoughts of how I “should” be giving birth. The constant nausea is the same way…I’m often torn between people who say “if you’re this sick, you should stop getting pregnant - this must be a sign” and those who say “if you just had more faith or a better attitude, you wouldn’t be so sick.” It’s just crazy.
Comment by Shannon MIller (July 14, 2007 @ 12:55 pm )
Thank you, Amy, for the thorough review of this book and refutation of the incorrect theology it espouses. An excellent post.
Comment by Jana (sidetrack'd) (July 14, 2007 @ 1:07 pm )
As a middle-aged woman with no children of my own, I say thank you for this, Lindsey. You might also be surprised at the attitudes that childless women encounter from Christian mothers who view motherhood as some sort of yardstick for spiritual maturity. They don’t know my story, either. All we can do is show them grace and accept them as weaker sisters in this area. God has so molded your heart through these trials, Lindsey, that you will be able to minister to the hearts of the hurting women you encounter to a deeper degree than someone who hasn’t gone through that valley. And that’s huge! Thank God for that!
Comment by beth (July 14, 2007 @ 1:13 pm )
Here’s a book I can recommend: Hudson Taylor’s Spiritual Secret. Can’t say enough about it, so here’s one of my favorite quotes to whet your appetite:
“One of the eighteen evangelists…was with him on one occasion when some letters were handed in to his office, bringing news of serious rioting in two of the older stations of the mission. Thinking that Mr. Taylor might wish to be alone, the younger man was about to withdraw when, to his surprise, someone began to whistle. It was the soft refrain of the same well-loved hymn:
Jesus, I am resting, resting in the joy of what Thou art….
Turning back, (he) could not help exclaiming, ‘How CAN you whistle, when our friends are in so much danger!’
‘Would you have me anxious and troubled?’ was the quiet reply. ‘That would not help them, and would certainly incapacitate me for my work.’”
Comment by Heather (July 14, 2007 @ 2:16 pm )
(I hope the occasional man is welcome to comment
Excellent critique, Amy, and sound comments. I just wanted to key on the author’s thing about tithing as some sort of insurance against suffering. It scarcely needs to be said that such didn’t work for my wife and I, and we would have been jealous for the honor of God had such a thing been suggested to us.
I pity the wretched author of that book, both for the inevitable, crushing disappointments she will face later on (if she doesn’t first repent of her abominable theology) and for the truly blessed life of faith in our covenant-keeping Lord (to Whom the secret things belong) that she is missing out on now.
Comment by Aaron (July 14, 2007 @ 3:42 pm )
Amy, I don’t comment often on here, but I just had to say:
Excellent post! The ending sentence was particularly fine, bringing it back to Christ, who will “never leave us, nor forsake us.”
Thank you.
Comment by Kate Nickelby (July 14, 2007 @ 5:56 pm )
Thanks for taking on this issue in your review. I cant have children and I used to resent people who told me I’m childless becuase I didnt pray hard enough, and that lack faith was my problem. I ‘ve learned to use those events as opportunites to share with those individuals how I’ve learned that my medical situation (PCOS) is actually a blessing. The fact that i have learned to rejoice in what the Lord has brought in my life and the certainty of knowing that he is sparing me from potentially serious situations while preparing me to be a mom to kids who have NO parents at all is something that I count a huge privledge and blessing. I hope other women in my same situation learn to see it that way as well.
Comment by Charity (July 14, 2007 @ 6:00 pm )
Not to overwhelm you with more advice. But here it is, and I won’t be offended if you don’t take it.
Can I recommend the book Heart & Hands a Midwives Guide to Pregnancy and Birth, by Elizabeth Davis. It is more a textbook for midwives, mostly dealing with homebirths. But for someone wanting to learn, and understand more about childbirth and the details, it is great. I am not a midwife, but this book was well used with my second, and last birth. I am the sort of person who takes comfort in being ‘in the know’, (so much for my faith). The book is very easy to read and understand, and I’d be more than happy to send my copy to you, I won’t be needing it anytime soon. I loved my pregnancy and birth experience, not all pleasant, but left me with ‘Wow, what a Creator!’, and am troubled that so many women fear it. Anyway, my sister and I are praying for your move to TN, that will put you closer to Ohio, and we will seriously be coming to bug you, if you do. We’ve got suspicions that you are really just an angel, whom God sent to the blog world. Thank you for taking the time to write words that are so encouraging and wise.
Comment by osohappy (July 14, 2007 @ 8:52 pm )
Amy,
I have been reading your blog for a few months. We have much in common, as I also married young to a man who is impervious to stress. I read this book when I was pregnant with my first (I was 23). I was at a Super Bowl party and not happy with the score of the game, so I perused the bookshelves in the TV room and was intrigued by the title. I spent the rest of the party expressing the same sentiments you have expressed to everyone who was trying to watch the game. The party host, who was much older than I and who had endured years of infertility, was given the book by a “friend”. She kept a good sense of humor about it. It suffices to say here, as Martin Luther did, that bad theology is a cruel taskmaster. Particularly so in times of suffering. The implications of this type of theology reach SO FAR beyond this one particular issue, but I don’t want to go on and on.
If I could tolerate either Florida or farm life, you and I would be fast friends!
Comment by Emily (July 14, 2007 @ 10:22 pm )
Another agreement here. I read the book and came to the same conclusions as you do. “Travail” is defined as “Work, especially when arduous or involving painful effort.” I suppose the Mize’s think they are above God’s way of describing childbirth???
Comment by Bonnie (July 14, 2007 @ 10:37 pm )
Love this review, Amy!
I can’t help but think this birth will wonderful–not pain free, but a mostly I think I’ll live thru this birth.
Comment by Lyn (July 14, 2007 @ 10:44 pm )
I don’t comment often…but I had to thank you for this review!
I had never heard of this book, and by the name would have avoided it, but feel that it is important to expose this kind of false teaching!
Now, I do beleive that the pain in labour can be “managed”…but the only “pain free” method is a c-section, but that only transfers the pain from “childbirth” to recovery.
Again, thank you for being bold enough to take a stand!
Comment by Molly (July 14, 2007 @ 10:45 pm )
I appreciate your perspective and am nodding in agreement when it comes to the word of faith stuff and thinking that God exists to make us happy.
Can you clarify where you state that you have two options:
“I understand that I have two options: overcome fear or displease God.”
Isn’t is very natural to have fear of pain- Christian or not? Isn’t a fear of pain part of what keeps us alive?
I would propose a third option- tell God I’m fearful and ask Him to be with me and comfort me. I guess I don’t believe that God is displeased if we struggle and are fearful of something that’s very normal to be afraid of (pain).
It seems like Jesus was struggling with going to the cross. Jesus asked God that He not have to go to the cross, but added that God’s will be done. (Matt. 26:36-42)
I guess I don’t believe that we have to overcome fear or else we displease God.
The question for me is am I going to trust God *in spite* of and through the fear and pain? Am I going to trust that He loves me and is who He says He is? Am I going to rely on Him as my Comforter?
My third labor left me reeling and fearful of another. Yet I was facing delivering my fourth baby only a year after my third. Graciously, God allowed me an “easy” deliver relatively free of pain and trauma.
But if He hadn’t and I had to go through the same suffering as the third? … it wouldn’t have changed the fact that I can still trust who He is and that I’ll someday be with Him in Heaven where there will be no suffering.
Comment by Anne@Anne'sCafe (July 15, 2007 @ 12:31 am )
My midwife cautiously told me about this book when I told her how fearful I was before the birth of my last baby. I looked for it at the library and they didn’t have it. I am so glad I didn’t read it, but I think I would have come to the same conclusions you did.
Excellent post, full of truth!
Comment by Tina (July 15, 2007 @ 10:49 am )
Thanks, Amy, for sharing your struggle with childbirth fears. I have found your posts so encouraging as I consider my future births after a horrible first one. Great review!
Comment by Emily (July 15, 2007 @ 12:04 pm )
I was given this book before I conceived my fourth child. I really wanted a baby girl. I read the book… I became pregnant with my little girl… I thought - Wow, maybe this works! I was full of selfish pride- I lost my baby girl. I was so angry with myself for believing the nonsense taught in that book. I was so humbled by that experience and my loss, that it (the loss) did bring me closer to God. I went on to have a beautiful, baby boy. God is good - in all things and all experiences - happy or sad - God is good! Thank you, Amy, for taking the time to write your review. Well done.
Comment by Jenn (July 15, 2007 @ 12:48 pm )
Anne brings up an interesting point in her comments. She asks, “Isn’t is very natural to have fear of pain- Christian or not? … I guess I don’t believe that God is displeased if we struggle and are fearful of something that’s very normal to be afraid of (pain).”
I have to answer this with a “yes” and a “no.” I created a problem with semantics here. I could have been clearer.
It is natural to dread or not look forward to with glee something that we know will cause us work or anguish. On the way to the cross, the perfect Son of God asks the Father to take “this cup” from Him (as mentioned), and then follows with what should be the mantra of every Christian, “Not my will, but Thine.” (Mark 14:36)
When the disciples are with Jesus and a storm comes, they are afraid. And for good reason—they’re about to die. But Jesus says, “Do not be afraid.” Was the command to not be afraid merely because Jesus had calmed the storm and they were out of danger? Maybe and maybe not, as Philippians reminds us, “For to me to live is Christ and to die is gain.” The Christian life is about faith in the next.
In John 14:27, Jesus seems to command us to cast down, reject, and put away thoughts of fear, “Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.” We can allow our hearts to be troubled or we can choose to be at peace—it is ours for the asking and believing.
Jesus tells us in Matthew 10:28, “Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.”
The reason this fear of childbirth has crossed the line of dread into downright fear is because it has caused me to make decisions and live life in a way that rejects my faith. Whatever is not of faith is sin.
As a Christian, it is my obligation to say to God, “Not my will but Yours!” Yet, with this fear gripping me, I am saying, “Yes, Lord, anything —except childbirth!”
In this way, it is possible that two people can perform the same action and one is sin and the other is not. If I end my fertility because I am afraid of labor, it is much different than ending it to receive cancer treatments. One decision is made in fear and the other in faith.
The other problem with this scenario is that life is too cruel to allow a person to escape a trial that easily. If it is not one thing, it will be another. Better to face it head on and say once and for all, “I fear God and Him only.”
Comment by Amy Scott (July 15, 2007 @ 1:32 pm )
Carole, That does sound familiar. If I read it, it wasn’t recently though. I’m currently reading Childbirth Without Fear by Dr. Grantly Dick-Read. It is proving to be one of those life-changing “a-ha” books. Hopefully, I can elaborate as time allows.
I have found Ina May Gaskin’s work to be helpful as well.
Comment by Amy Scott (July 15, 2007 @ 1:50 pm )
Good review, Amy. Probably much better than the book deserves.
There are too many who don’t understand that God doesn’t deliver us FROM trouble… He delivers us THROUGH trouble.
Comment by rev-ed (July 15, 2007 @ 2:34 pm )
Thank you for this review and exposition of the anti-Biblical errors in this book!
My husband and I have been blessed with two wonderful children in 20 years of marriage. We’ve also been given, in God’s providence: quite a few years of secondary infertility, at least one miscarriage, two very difficult pregnancies, two premature births, and one c-section. If the Lord blesses us again at our advanced age
I will face another c-section, guaranteed.
Through all this we have been wonderfully blessed, and God has graciously given us good things and NOT GIVEN US WHAT WE DESERVE!!!
And yet we have faced criticism from fellow-believers about what we have done wrong to bring this woes upon us. Unfortunately, most of the critics have been in the Reformed camp and would be appalled to be called “name it and claim it”.
I’ll will continue to pray for health and a safe delivery for you and your baby.
Comment by Elizabeth (July 15, 2007 @ 3:20 pm )
Amy–
1. How can you read all your comments? The number of them is overwhelming to me, and I don’t even have any sort of obligation to read them.
2. Seriously. You are very mature in your faith and wise, but as a 41 year old mother of four, I will say with a certain amount of–well, something—-You ought not put pressure on yourself to not be afraid. It isn’t going to help. You just need to trust and believe that Jesus is always with you, will never leave you and has a sovereign plan for you. Whether or not you are afraid. Whether or not it hurts. Whether or not you die (really–that is the worst thing that could happen, and if it does it will be part of His plan, and you will see Him face to face). His will, not yours. Surrender to His will doesn’t mean you aren’t afraid. It just means that you are going to trust Him whether you are afraid or not, and that in your mind you know that He will work things for your good, whether you understand and enjoy His methods or not. In my experience, I often (maybe usually) don’t understand or enjoy His methods, but over time I can look back and sometimes understand a little of why He did things as He did. Putting your focus on not being afraid puts your focus in the wrong place. You need to focus on Jesus, not whether you feel fearful or not. When you start to feel afraid, you need to quote scripture to yourself that assures you of His sovereign power and plan–Joshua 1:9, Romans 8:28, Philippians 4:6-9, here’s a really good one–Habakkuk 3:16-19.
3. Recently in a Bible study we discussed Mark 11:22-24, which basically says you can do/have anything if you have enough faith. There are specific verses in the Bible to condone almost anything if you take them out of context. The problem is that people so rarely take the whole of scripture. They find one little idea that appeals to them and build an entire theology on it, and they can never again be bothered with the rest of scripture. Oh, how we need to read our Bibles! I find that most people who read their Bibles seriously (and not just specific favorite passages) seem to come to a surprisingly similar way of understanding Truth. Oh for pastors and teachers with a heart to lead their congregations in the TRUTH!
4. My first birth was textbook. My second one was very easy. My third one was horrific and I almost bled to death, among other things. I was SO SCARED to have the fourth one. But that one was pretty easy and was the very easiest recovery of all–no episiotomy, and I didn’t even tear. All during that pregnancy, I had fear. I went to bed praying, “Dear Jesus, please not tonight.” I got up praying, “Thank you, Jesus that I didn’t have to deliver last night.” I got a Christian doula to come and help with the birth. (That was nice–you might consider it.) The fear drove me close to the Lord, and I’m sure that was part of His purpose in the whole chain of events. When you need Him, you cling to Him. Maybe that’s what He wants from you.
Comment by ruth (July 15, 2007 @ 3:30 pm )
Thank you for the clarification, Amy. This statement helped me see a little more of what you are talking about:
“The reason this fear of childbirth has crossed the line of dread into downright fear is because it has caused me to make decisions and live life in a way that rejects my faith.”
I’m wondering what aspect of faith you are rejecting? It doesn’t seem like you are rejecting God… is it God’s will that you are talking about here? I can see that if you believe God’s will is for you to keep having babies, then it would be a problem not to accept that.
Comment by Anne@Anne'sCafe (July 15, 2007 @ 3:52 pm )
OK, I only have a second to comment so my thoughts my be scrambled, but I was wondering…
You say “The reason this fear of childbirth has crossed the line of dread into downright fear is because it has caused me to make decisions and live life in a way that rejects my faith. Whatever is not of faith is sin.
As a Christian, it is my obligation to say to God, “Not my will but Yours!” Yet, with this fear gripping me, I am saying, “Yes, Lord, anything —except childbirth!” ”
I doubt you can really be saying, “Yes, Lord, anything - except childbrith.” because you are pregnant already, you KNOW the end is childbirth!
So, wouldn’t having faith in God and trusting in His will look like daily giving the birth experience to God in prayer. You know it is coming, you know you have a fear of “IT” and now you are brought to your knees saying “God, I NEED YOU! Help me glorify YOU as “WE” deal with this fear. That could look like a million different things.
I have had three different childbirth experiences (and my fourth is just a couple of months after your sixth)and with each one FROM THE MOMENT my husband and I discover we are going to have a new little soul to train for God, we are praying for the baby (their salvation, health), for my body and for the delievery. Specifically that we would glorify HIM with the ENTIRE experience. For one pregnancy that meant closing my mouth when the method of how to deliver (drug free, at home, etc) was bringing some Mom’s “spiritual maturity” into question. Yes, that was a NINE MONTH long battle (not getting into godless chatter) as many women around me wanted to shout from the roof tops that if you had an epidural you were not doing it God’s way.
For another pregnancy it meant glorifying God in the delivery room as I ENJOYED an epidural and was able to chat with my husband, smile at him and look at him with loving eyes as we throughout the CALM day we prayed for our son and the imminent delivery. Thus causing our nurse to ask why we were so different than every other couple she attended to and why our marriage was so “good” (she missed the nine months of me struggling with my complaining and my husband letting me know I didn’t need to complain so.) We were able to glorify God in that delivery by witnessing to her and letting her know that we didn’t see our marriage as “good” but we considered it very blessed by GOD. We put our faith and hope in HIM and give him everything, including our relationship and loving one another. Like you said, “we work, HE works”.
I glorified God in my third pregnancy as I got a million compliaments on how I didn’t complain so and constantly go on and on about “I’m pregnant…” or “I can’t…” (Yes, I had complained enough in my pregnancy #2 and really prayed that God would give me a heart of contentment. HE brought a friend along my path that was unable to conceive. I had new perspective). I was able to say that my aches and pains weren’t gone but my attitude was different. My getting a million compliaments from others noticing my different “coping” wasn’t the glorifying God part, it was the inward workings of my heart between me and God. Others just happen to notice because yes, I complained THAT bad with #2.
All this is not to say that I didn’t glorify God in other ways or have areas of sin -such as a judmental spirit towards the women still letting me know that I wasn’t delivering “God’s way” and they were better b/c they birthed at home or without an epidural (oddly though they would take narcartics) and my sin came in as I wanted to gossip about that situation to anyone on my side. OK, just rambling thoughts….
I think you can bring glory to God as you work through this fear. That may mean getting an epidural and ENJOYING your labor and delivery and later being able to shout from the roof tops that God gave you PLEASANT birth experience and you are not fearful of having six more children for him. Thank God for the ability to manage pain in a safe way.
Comment by ES (July 15, 2007 @ 4:50 pm )
Right. I meant that it was what I was thinking beforehand…
Yes, Anne, I’m talking about God’s will here, as He has not led me to choose otherwise. Thanks for clarifying.
I wish I had time to respond to every comment, but I surely do read, enjoy, and am thankful for each one.
Comment by Amy Scott (July 15, 2007 @ 9:40 pm )
Speaking of pain and childbirth…I never did see that post about epidurals you promised a while back…did I miss it, or did you not have a chance to write it yet?
Comment by miller_schloss (July 15, 2007 @ 11:41 pm )
God bless you for saying that. i have been married for almost 3 years & waiting on God to bless me. It has been a struggle of fait for me personnally & worsened by well meaning people offering me an appointment with their deliverance pastor. Thank you for sharing your understanding of God and how He relates to us.
Comment by gracechild (July 16, 2007 @ 12:04 am )
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Comment by gracechild (July 16, 2007 @ 12:20 am )
Amy,
I had to respond to this, and I hope my story helps somehow.
I have always had a serious fear of childbirth. I remember crying about it in jr. high while standing in line, just thinking about the prospect someday! I have thought a lot about it, and I traced my fear to the very UNsheltered way I was raised. Without giving specific gory examples, I was exposed to way too much, including the worst things that can happen in birth, all up close and personal. It helped me somewhat just to understand where my fear took root.
I was terrified of birth when I became pregnant a bit unexpectedly at 20. I was just sooo scared. I had a typical hospital birth (too many interventions that caused more problems, etc) and it was very painful.
Then I discovered natural birth, homebirth, waterbirth and The Bradley Method. I was sure I had the answers now, and it was a good thing because number two was on her way. Her birth was my most painful birth ever. Altough the water and Bradley helped, really I was in so much pain, I wanted to die.
Months later, I had a life-changing experience and became a Christian. I fell in love with Jesus and His Word, I was doing all I could for Him… My husband and I even prayed and dedicated my womb to the Lord, for as many babies as He would give us. I didn’t get pregnant for a while. Then I miscaried for the first time. Thankfully, I got pregnant again- and it was then I happened to read Super-Natural Childbirth. It helped me to think positive and gave me something to concentrate on, but I felt a lot of pain as I gave birth to our ten-pound baby in our kitchen. Definitely not a painless birth!
I was at my wits end, almost dreading the next time I would become pregnant, even though I absolutely love babies and our children… I simply did not want to go through birth. The fear was awful, enough to keep me awake at night, enough to bring me to tears. Even going to the hospitial and getting medicated wasn’t a real option for me because of my very fast labors, as well as our distance from the hospitals.
So I turned to the only place I had left- Jesus. I had my husband and my children pray for me and over me. I PRAYED to Jesus like I have rarely prayed before. I would sit up at night and just call out to Him. I prayed so hard and so much, I would even just drift in and out of sleep and prayer in the night all mingled together. Sometime I literialy woke up praying. I prayed my heart out. I begged Him, for a birth that would be BEARABLE, to take away the fear, to be WITH me. He assured me that He would be.
Then came the late night I went into labor. I got in our big bathtub and started to feel the pains. It was feeling a lot like the other times. It hurt some, and was getting stronger. I was tense and started to be not-so-sweet to my husband. Then I noticed something. It hurt, and it was hard, but it was not getting continualy worse. It was staying at the bearable level. I was doing okay. I asked my husband and my midwife to pray, and they did. And I prayed and called out to God. My midwife would tell me to push, and I would P-R-A-Y first and push second! It made ALL the difference. I don’t even have the words to describe it. When my midwife said my baby was out, my honest first thought was “That was it?!?!” I could not believe it! All from just trusting in Him, and calling out to Him like I have never really done before, with every ounce of my being. And He came though for me all the way.
It blows me away to think that, on top of that, He has blessed me with four absolutely beautiful healthy children so far. My youngest is nine months. His name is Elijah Asher, and he is the sweetest happiest baby we have ever had. He has almost never cried, and I am sure it has something to do with the way I prayed when I was pregnant with him.
I hope this helps you somehow. I guess I am just saying to cry out to Him like never before and He will be there. He is an awesome God. I love Him so much, more and more in these past five years of coming to know Him- it is incredible how faithful He is to us!
Thankyou for all you do in your blog. We have the same vision your family does (homeschooling, the large acerage, etc) and reading here is a blessing.
God Bless You, and I will keep you in my prayers.
another Amie in WA
Comment by Amie in WA (July 16, 2007 @ 4:01 am )
Unfortunately, the teaching of a church that lead you to believe that if your prayers are not answered it’s because of your lack of faith, have left my family shaken. Dh prayed and prayed ‘in faith’ when his mother was diagnosed with cancer. We listened to Scripture healing tapes, got annointed prayer cloths, and read many books on healing and speaking the Word in order to have his mother healed. Her sisters prayed almost constantly by her bedside, and still she passed away only a month after her diagnosis. Dh’s faith was shaken to the core, after many years of being told that doubt and fear would keep one from receiving the things they claimed and prayed for. He just can’t fathom why, if we all prayed and all believed, God didn’t heal her. I have no answers that comfort him, and I’m left as the spiritual leader of five children. I can only pray and hope that God leads his heart back to Him.
By the way, I’ve had five natural childbirths, and one miscarriage. Yes, there was pain, but it was manageable. One birth was emotionally tramautizing and left me in fear and depression. My last two were wonderful. Women feel pain differently. Some have excrutiating pain, and some are almost completely pain free. It amazes me to know that there are women out there who have terrible births and still go on to have many more children. They are the true heroes to me. I’ve had five relatively easy births, I don’t deserve any pats on the back for doing something that comes easily.
Comment by Mrs. H (July 16, 2007 @ 8:17 am )
it deeply grieves me to know that people buy into this nonsense of God giving us as many children as we desire and that God desires all couples to have children, we just need the right amount of faith.
does that mean that if you build your family through other means (e.g. adoption) that it is because you lacked faith and settled for “second best”? i am getting sick of people in the church telling us it is due to our lack of faith that we do not have our own children, and “friends” telling us that adopting is not the best way to go, that we should keep trying for our “own”. if we were not so firmly rooted in our faith, it would have left us long ago because of how christians have treated us and the ignorant comments they have made. I don’t know what our path is yet, but i know that each day with my husband is such a blessing. some old testament bible stories that give me comfort are those where the wife is barren. it often follows with the husband loving her more than his other wife/wives and giving her a double portion of food, etc. yes, in the bible the women often become pregnant by the end of the story, but i don’t hang my hat on that. but my husband loves me deeply, and we have endured a lot together and have stengthened our faith because of it. but i ask the authoress of this book: what about moses? what about esther? these people were adopted and look what they accomplished. what about children who lose their parents to drugs or death? did the children not have enough faith? are we not supposed to have faith like a child? how come some of these little ones get lost in the social system? who is to care for them? only people who can “make” their own children?
Comment by jeannie (July 16, 2007 @ 10:43 am )
Great review, Amy. I hope women who are googling for info on this particular book are sent HERE first!
Comment by mopsy (July 16, 2007 @ 12:03 pm )
Kudos for reading “Childbirth without Fear” by Dr. Grantley Dick-Read. It is not easy to find (I found a 60 yr old version at the thrift store), but his wise words have sustained me through quite a few panic attacks at 38 wks. I have found his relaxation techniques useful in many life situations. Some of his statements will be so bold as to be saying there is no pain in a fearless childbirth. But once one reads the book more thoroughly, you can see he acknowledges ‘discomfort’ in later stages of dilation. I do try and refrain from using the word ‘Pain’ in relation to childbirth. Not that there isnt any, but its not the focus.
I hope you review “childbirth without fear” as well.
Comment by Amy (July 16, 2007 @ 12:40 pm )
I found it so encouraging the way you relied on the scripture to answer the erroneous theology laid out in this book. I loved the example of Joseph that you used. I recently experienced some tension in a close family relationship where I felt I was being completely misunderstood. I desperately to vindicate myself. The Spirit brought to mind the example of Joseph. Trials don’t indicate a lack of faith. Scripture implies just the opposite. Anyone teaching that the Christian life is to be one of “flowery beds of ease” has a seriously flawed theology. It’s as if all of the scriptures that admonish us that we will encounter trials don’t exist. The new testament includes many references to the struggles we will face in this life- sometimes BECAUSE we are followers of Christ. I too was exposed to some the types of ministry that you refer to and I thank God for His word renewing my mind. This type of teaching is dangerous. We would do well to remember that we are joint heirs with Christ and that if indeed we suffer with Him-in whatever way He chooses for us-that we may also be glorified with Him. As usual, great post!
Comment by terry (July 16, 2007 @ 1:15 pm )
Amy,
Excellent review. May I recommend a book that encouraged me so very much (is about our walk with God, not pregnancy/childbirth though); Hinds Feet On High Places.
Blessings,
Meagan in Gainesville
Comment by Meagan (July 16, 2007 @ 2:21 pm )
In this way, it is possible that two people can perform the same action and one is sin and the other is not. If I end my fertility because I am afraid of labor, it is much different than ending it to receive cancer treatments. One decision is made in fear and the other in faith.
The other problem with this scenario is that life is too cruel to allow a person to escape a trial that easily. If it is not one thing, it will be another. Better to face it head on and say once and for all, “I fear God and Him only.”
Comment by Janet (July 16, 2007 @ 4:22 pm )
I goofed up the blockquote thing, Amy. Sorry about that.
Janet
Comment by Janet (July 16, 2007 @ 4:23 pm )
Hi Amy,
I’m a young mom of one with our second due in December (right behind you!). I read your blog for encouragement. Fortunately, I had many women help me prepare for my homebirth. I took a Hypnobirthing class (have you heard of that book?), and it was wonderful. Filtering out the rubbish, it just taught you to relax by #1 knowledge of your body and #2 through practice. We breathed, we imagined things, we got massages, etc. We found what helped us best relax, what most distracted us, etc.
Now these people promised me the possibility of a “pain free” birth also. That pain wasn’t normal, that the biblical curse was just a threat from a patriarchal society. I didn’t buy into it. But I did pray and pray and talk to my baby a lot. My prayer was always the same: “Please, Lord, give me a safe, smooth, manageable birth”. And I believed He was able to give me that. But I didn’t believe that He definitely would or had to. God isn’t like that. I know that I need a lot of sanctification, and that childbirth seems to be a common means of bringing that about in women. So, I prepared for the worst in my mind, and just begged God to help me get through it.
To the praise and glory of God, I had an amazing 5-hour labor, quick delivery, no tearing sort of birth with an amazingly healthy baby as a result. I’m just now coming to understand what happened. I’ve been reading The Screwtape Letters, by Lewis (remember this is a demon talking!):
“If, on the other hand, he is aware that horrors may be in store for him and is praying for the virtues wherewith to meet them, and meanwhile concerning himself with the Present because there, and there alone, all duty, all grace, all knowledge, and all pleasure dwell, his state is very undesirable and should be attacked at once.” p. 63
I think somehow I was thinking along those lines with my first, but with this pregnancy I struggle with trying to duplicate my first pregnancy, thinking that will guarantee me as good (or better) a second birth.
Is the state of mind and heart that Lewis describes something like you hope to have as you prepare for your baby’s coming? Is that the ideal frame of mind, in your opinion?
Comment by Kelly P (July 16, 2007 @ 10:57 pm )
Great review of this book. (Of the same ilk was Zion Birth.) It’s not worth your time to fill your head with unbiblical nonsense. Try instead Kelly Townsend’s Christian Childbirth or Jennifer Vanderlan’s Lord of Birth.
Comment by Ana Hill, CLD, CLE (July 17, 2007 @ 1:39 am )
My religious beliefs are so different from the author’s that I wouldn’t even want to spend the time listing them all. Having lost my mother when I was 11 years old, I am sure glad that no one tried to teach me that bad things only happen to families that lack the right kind of faith.
Anyway, I want to comment on one thing Amy said: “Supernatural Childbirth is based on the erroneous presupposition that God exists to make us happy.”
As a Reform Jew, a central element of my religious identity is the concept of “tikkun olam,” which is Hebrew for “to heal and repair the world.” As in, I am supposed to help make the world better and worry more about what I can do for God, rather than what God can do for me.
Amy, did you happen to see this interview Elizabeth Edwards gave to Newsweek a few months ago?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17889146/site/newsweek/
The title was, “I’m Not Praying for God to Save Me.” She explains how her son’s death (in a car accident caused by wind that blew him off the road) affected her faith: “You’d think that if God was going to protect somebody, he’d protect that boy. But not only did he not protect him, the wind blew him from the road. The hand of God blew him from the road. So I had to think, “What kind of God do I have that doesn’t intervene—in fact, may even participate—in the death of this good boy?” I talk about it in the book, that I had to accept that my God was a God who promised enlightenment and salvation. And that’s all. Didn’t promise us protection.”
Later she explains, “I’m not praying for God to save me from cancer. I’m not. God will enlighten me when the time comes. And if I’ve done the right thing, I will be enlightened. And if I believe, I’ll be saved. And that’s all he promises me.”
This view of God resonates deeply for me. God does not reward all faithful people with perfect families or painless childbirths or whatever. I feel truly sorry for those whose grief is compounded by the mistaken belief that they suffer because their faith displeased God.
Comment by Laurie B (July 17, 2007 @ 2:17 am )
Jeannie, my heart aches for you, that your church family has somehow gotten the idea that the only children God wishes to bless you with have to be biological. I’m blessed to have my daughter, I wanted 5 or 6 kids but events in my life (orchestrated by God , of course) changed my plans. I now have 2 step children (which has it’s own challenges and joys) and am vaguely pondering adoption. I guess i’m rambling just to say that adoption would be such a blessing, to take a child out of a possibly Godless, emotionally starved atmosphere and raise it in the nurture and admonition of the Lord, after all as Christians it is our duty to care for widows and orphans, what better way to help do that.
as for the impact in an adopted child’s life, I have a friend who was a product of rape and incest. She was sent to foster care in elementary school and later adopted. As a result she became a christian and her son’s family (wife and 6 kids) are foriegn missionaries. How God blessed her life, and the world through her adoption.
Comment by Kelli (July 17, 2007 @ 8:46 am )
Yes, I skimmed it in a bookstore about a month ago.
I’m ill-equiped to argue with C.S. Lewis. Yes, that is exactly what I mean. Just as an aside, anyone who has not read The Screwtape Letters yet….shame on you!
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Laurie B,
I think I would differ with Elizabeth Edwards in that it is good that we approach God and ask for His saving, His helping. “Ye have not, because ye ask not.” He hears us: sometimes the answer is “yes” and sometimes the answer is “no.” The Psalms are filled with His people’s cries for deliverance, and I think it is prescriptive and not just descriptive.
Thanks for chiming in!
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Janet,
I always love hearing from you. I’m not sure I understand how anyone could rebuke a mother of 12 for her decision in the end—-have we gotten so bold so as to lose our place? If I was in the room, I’d surely pipe up, “Now, Miss! Remember yourself!”
Chime in anytime, Janet.
Anything, really. If you read her or John Piper, they both tend to say the same thing, just in another way. You might be interested in the telling of her story that made her “famous”: Through Gates of Splendor.
EE=my life for Yours; make everything an offering.
John Piper=God is most glorified in us when we are most satisfied in Him.
I’m sure there are other examples of authors who say the same thing in all their books, but these are the two authors who come to mind (oh, and Jane Austin=same story, different names).
I am a slacker; I know, I know!
Comment by Amy Scott (July 17, 2007 @ 8:49 pm )
I know a wonderful young woman who swears by this book- she also applies the relevant concepts to her postnatal body, IE “speaking in faith” to her feet not to get bigger, her body not to retain prenatal weight, etc. I have to bite my tongue. Thanks for this great post… Elisabeth Elliot was a breath of fresh air to me too
When B. Hinn prayed over me as a child, I’m afraid that I kicked him in the shins.
Comment by MM (July 17, 2007 @ 10:42 pm )
Hi Amy,
You have a lot of comments to read through. Everyone likes to share their birth stories. I didn’t read through them all, but I’m happy to share my experience and advice if you read this far
USE A TENS UNIT! I’ve had five deliveries. First, highly medical and baby ended up in NICU for 10 days. Second and third beautiful and unmedicated, but certainly not pain free, just tolerable until the end. Baby number 4 I had an epidural. Baby number 5 (2 months old now) I used a midwife and a TENS unit. It worked wonders. You can research them online. They are used a lot in Europe, but not so much here. My labor was 19 hours, but I felt in control because everytime I had a contraction I turned up the voltage and it just took the edge off. It has 4 pads you attach to your back which send currents through you to deaden the pain. I’m not explaining it well because my baby is starting to fuss and needs me. Please email me if you want more details. I highly recommend them!
Tina H.
Comment by Tina H. (July 18, 2007 @ 3:59 pm )
What a wonderful post, Amy. On the topic, I just wanted to mention that I gave birth last Tuesday, and I posted my birth story today on my blog. It was a beautiful homebirth. Sure, there was pain, but God taught me so much through it. Being able to labor in the comfort of my own home was such a blessing. Prayers for your pregnancy.
Comment by Christine (July 18, 2007 @ 4:54 pm )
Eh, I had a painless childbirth, pretty much. It was tiring and painful if I stayed still, but it didn’t hurt as long as I kept a movin. I have it on my blog if you wanted to see.
http://greenbeanboutique.blogspot.com/2007/06/hannahs-birth-story.html
And I never read the book, my labor was pretty long, and I had a dumb song stuck in my head the whole time.
Comment by Cara (July 18, 2007 @ 9:55 pm )
Excellent review, Amy. I haven’t read all the comments yet. . . Read the book when preggers with #1 (friend of my MIL’s gave it to me.) My spidey-sense was really tingling, even though I wasn’t in a place to analyze all that was off with this book. You know she’s here in Florida, right?
Comment by TulipGirl (July 19, 2007 @ 8:04 am )
Thanks very refreshing!
Comment by Renee (July 19, 2007 @ 3:30 pm )
Once again, Amy, you’ve stated the problem with your typical eloquence. What you’ve just done in one short statement, I’ve been trying to put into words for years. Oh, how I wish more people would wake up and see through the fog of folks like Robert Tilton, Benny Hinn, and Marjoe Gortner’s ilk. Thanks again for your insightful commentary.
Comment by /tim (July 20, 2007 @ 11:04 am )
What a great review. I’m thankful I never came across that book when I was pregnant!
Amy said:
“Jackie Mize gets it right when she says this, “The pain women experience in childbirth comes mostly from fear and lack of knowledge.” (p. 32)”
I disagree. Anyone that has had back labor (read: knife stabbing you in the back for hours on end) will agree that no amount of “knowledge” will help you get through this pain.
Of course trying different positions could help turn the baby but sometimes it is just something we have to endure.
I will be praying for you dear Amy.
Remind me when you are due. Hugs.
Comment by Janet (July 20, 2007 @ 5:50 pm )
November 8, which puts me at 24+ weeks right now.
No, I didn’t know that. I was thinking Tulsa probably…
Comment by Amy Scott (July 21, 2007 @ 8:06 pm )
I do not believe in the “name it/claim it”, but I do believe in trusting God with my body, my birth, and my baby. That is not to say that I shouldn’t take steps to care for it all- don’t get me wrong.
The biggest thing in my birth experiences and the one to come (and the ones that will follow) is that God is the Great Physician, and birth should be something that glorifies Him. As I have written in my own blog, I am constantly amazed by the way he created my body to nourish and care for a baby as well as myself all the way from pregnancy to after the birth.
I do believe there are those who have painless births. I sure know that it’s pretty much impossible to have a painless birth laboring flat on your back as most of us do in hospitals (fighting gravity). Yes, there are painless births just as there are those who never have a twinge of morning sickness (me, not so lucky… I had severe “morning” sickness for 20 weeks). Do I think I was being punished by God? Do I think I wasnt praying enough? Absolutely not.
So, the book in itself would have its up and downs for me.. some things I agree with, and believe could and do happen, but I do feel that God doesn’t make every experience easy-as-pie just because we ask him to do so. Childbirth pain is so much different from any other sort of pain. For me, the pain of childbirth reminded me of the pain of the cross for which Jesus gave us new life. (Of course, my pain is nothing compared to his, but it was a good personal parable for me.)
Comment by MandyMom (July 23, 2007 @ 11:24 am )
Good post and as I read through the comments I see everyone agrees! Wow.
One thing I have learned just in reading these comments is that I need to be MORE prayerful about this next birth than I have been.
Thanks!
Comment by Natalie (July 23, 2007 @ 4:21 pm )
Hi Amy,
I’ve been reading your blog for a few months now and really enjoy the peek into your life and heart. If you are still up for reading a book about childbirth, I’d recommend “Birthing from Within”. I don’t remember the author but it helped me tremendously with the birth of our fifth. I didn’t struggle with fear with our first three and they came faster, each one. Our fourth I had so many people there, I didn’t have time to pay attention to my birth process until the last hour when I realized, oh crap, this is about to come out of me. I yelled like the man in Princess Bride when they put the torture machine up to 50! When I was blessed unexpectedly with our fifth pregnancy, I plunged into the depths of despair and it took the birth of our baby to bring me back. It was such a beautiful birth and I was not afraid. God answered my prayers and I believe that book, which I read 3 weeks before I delivered was a big part of that. It has some new age type stuff but if you can take the good, it’s really good. (in my opinion) If you want to write a book review about it, I’d love to hear your opinion! I really appreciate your investment into your blog, it’s always encouraging to hear a “normal” mom go on about normal struggles and issues.
Rachel
Comment by Rachel Goodman (July 23, 2007 @ 11:18 pm )
I haven’t taken the time to read the other replys, but since I am supposing you read this book because of my recomendation a thought I should comment…
#1: I’m sorry that I did not clarify that you should take the good from it & leave the rest.
#2: No, I did not command my body like they say to do. That felt like trying to be “God” a bit to much for me. I am definatley still a miserable pregnant wonan for 7 of the 9 months that I am pregnant.
#3: The main aspect that I gleaned from the book was being able to release my fears. Reading scriptures that would help through childbirth. My prayer for months was that God would take the fear of childbirth away. Prior to this I was VERY fearful which I felt made my previous labors MUCH more painful.
The Birth Book By Dr. Sears was also such a great help in teaching my how my body worked & just allowing the contractions to do the work instead of always bracing myself.
I hope that your upcoming birth is a wonderful experience for you!
Comment by Ruth (July 24, 2007 @ 11:28 am )
Ruth,
Thank you for the reply. It’s actually a book that has been recommended to me several times through the years. Like you mentioned–take the good and leave the rest–it seems that was what everyone added as a caveat.
Comment by Amy Scott (July 24, 2007 @ 9:10 pm )
Rachel and others who gave recommendations,
I’m reading Childbirth Without Fear and Heart and Hands (from a reader who so graciously mailed me her copy!). I do have Birthing From Within (Pam England) and Ina May Gaskin and Dr. Sears on my to-read list as well.
Comment by Amy Scott (July 24, 2007 @ 9:15 pm )
Thank you, Amy, for that review. Interestingly, I just picked up this book at a second hand store for 25 cents and was looking forward to reading it. I quicky realized that it was a “name it and claim it” type of book and not the substantive help in truly overcoming fear during pregnancy that I was looking for.
Your post confirmed to me that God is good all the time and, whether he gives or takes away, blessed be His name. It’s hard to just rest in that when you know exactly what it is that you so desperately want (a healthy, uncomplicated pregnancy in my case), and yet all you can do is pray for his mercy, do the best that you can and rest in his sovereignty.
Amen. Keep up the great musings.
Comment by Sarah (July 31, 2007 @ 7:31 pm )
Praise the Lord for this post! I just r