Sunk costs
Tuesday, Aug 28, 2007
Packing…oh boy. We’re packing up our house after six enjoyable years on the Florida coast. We anticipate our move occurring little by little over the next few months, with a final, big move in the early spring.
Anyone who has packed up a “lived-in” house is familiar with the concept of sunk costs. Sunk costs* are expenses that have already been incurred and cannot be recovered in any manner that makes it worthwhile. A gadget here, a doodad there, a thingamajig everywhere. What use is it now? But it’s painful to throw it away “because I spent good money on that thing!” The important thing to discern is how much use is it to me now?
Back before I had a half dozen children misplaced my brain, I was very organized. My closet was color-coded, and my CD’s were alphabetized. Now, I’m just glad that the door shuts. Since we all marry our opposite, though, I was doomed to marry a packrat. (There is a better term for that, I’m sure, but my thesaurus isn’t working well.) But he got me good last night. Actually, it happens quite often whenever I pitch something that hasn’t been used in seven years (even though the official rule is one year).
Magically, the very next day he finds a project where he can say, “Yep. I wouldn’t have to run to Home Depot and spend money if you hadn’t pitched [insert said piece of junk].” He’ll then emphasize the phrase “spend money” with flair, because he knows that’s my weak point.
But back to last night. He uncrumpled a print I bought years ago, which I’ve intended all these years to get matted and framed. It got lost in the depths of our pantry–somewhere behind the doggy biscuits and econo-size jar of pickles. He shook it out, but the dust and creases hung a little too tightly.
“I guess I can pitch this, right?” he began.
“But I LOVE that picture. It’s so pretty. It reminds me of the simplicity and order and beauty that I can’t seem to hear because of the Honey-Nut Cheerios crunching under my toes! If I can’t have that life, can’t I at least LOOK at it?! Besides (ahem), even though it was on sale, it still wasn’t cheap.”
“And?”
“We can’t just throw it away! I LOVE that picture. Do you hear me?!”
And so he tossed it amid my protesting and wailing.
Yes, I find it very easy to toss all the junk around the house (very late at night under secret disguise). But when it’s my junk? That’s another story entirely.
Bye-bye, my lovely quilt and wagon print. You’ll be missed.
*From Wikipedia: Economics proposes that a rational actor does not let sunk costs influence one’s decisions, because doing so would not be assessing a decision exclusively on its own merits. For example, when one pre-orders a non-refundable movie ticket, the price of the ticket becomes a sunk cost. Even if the ticket-buyer decides that he would rather not go to the movie, there is no way to get back the money he originally paid.
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LOL, that’s funny. You sound like me. I *love* to dejunk, and sometimes I do it in covert actions, and late at night, ’specially if it’s something my husband “thinks” he wants, but hasn’t used in years. *smile* My kids, too.
However, at least when you move to the country, you’ll just be able to look out your window to sereneness, and that will be better than any old print.
Comment by Andrea (August 28, 2007 @ 1:39 pm )
Hahaha! You sound like my sister. She is always throwing stuff out. I, personally, would rather just not buy the stuff in the first place (that is where I sound like you). I do my fair share of de-junking. The other day I decided to throw fifty things away so I grabbed a trash bag and started pitching. It was mostly old mail though so it didn’t really cut down enough.
Comment by Rhonda (August 28, 2007 @ 1:54 pm )
What a funny post! I too have a husband who always seems to need that one item that hasn’t been used in two years-right after I’ve pitched it. And like you, I cringe when he has to go to Home Depot or Lowes to replace it. I’m always amazed at how people seemingly different in every conceivable way can have such a commonality of experiences. Blessings to you and good luck with your move.
Comment by terry (August 28, 2007 @ 2:59 pm )
We just moved 5 people and a dog out of 1400 sq. feet into 900 sq feet (we’re building a new house and going to rent in the process) so I can TOTALLY relate to sunk costs. While I packed up every trinket and doodad, I went from mad to downright mad, to full blown anger at myself for buying some of this stupid stuff. And here’s the kicker, I’m pretty much a simple living, minimalist type of gal. I don’t have much “fluff” as it is, but the fluff I do have, aggrivates me!!!
I think I came up with 6 spatulas. Who needs 6 spatulas in assorted shapes and sizes?
Comment by Lindsey @ ETJ (August 28, 2007 @ 3:16 pm )
Heh. Enjoy the Journey.
(See, a plug for Lindsey!)
We’re on the other side, and STILL pitching! Perpetual pitching - that’s my motto.
Comment by Holly (August 28, 2007 @ 4:37 pm )
Oh and Lindsey, I was pretty mad at myself too. I am very practical, very frugal, and STILL, I (and the packrats who live with me) have managed to pick up WAY to many doo dads.
Comment by Holly (August 28, 2007 @ 4:38 pm )
My politically correct kindhearted substitute for packrat is clutterbug.
Comment by Valerie (Kyriosity) (August 28, 2007 @ 5:10 pm )
Ooops…thought I could get away with a strikethrough tag, but it didn’t work. I meant to strike politically correct!
Comment by Valerie (Kyriosity) (August 28, 2007 @ 5:11 pm )
That reminds me of when we cleaned out my mom’s house. I just couldn’t bear to get rid of my late dad’s old coffee pot. If you’d like ya’ll can read the story here. It’s very sentimental to me!
Comment by Carmen (August 28, 2007 @ 5:13 pm )
“My closet was color-coded, and my CD’s were alphabetized. Now, I’m just glad that the door shuts. ”
Ditto. Will we ever be the same?!
Comment by Kendra (August 28, 2007 @ 5:43 pm )
The beauty of moving 29 times in 18 years is that we don’t have “sunk costs” lol. Not sure that is exacting “bragging” rights, but I’ll be praying for your move!
Comment by suzi (August 28, 2007 @ 7:06 pm )
i used to packrat. now i’m a bonafide tosser. i never used to be organized and now i am. weird, huh? i blame it on my husband.
Comment by Elizabeth (August 28, 2007 @ 8:17 pm )
in a good way, i mean! lol. i’ve “seen the light” as it were.
Comment by Elizabeth (August 28, 2007 @ 8:17 pm )
Funny, my husband never buys anything and could careless what I pitch. I also think the same thing, I paid a lot for that thing? Half the stuff I “needed” meaning wanted, I never used. So stop buying is the key, for me I say! I am implementing a plan to not impulse buy. I do not have the plan down pat as of yet. I am still in the implementing stage LOL!! My husband says, I will throw him out if he is sitting to still or one of the kids LOL!! Although I do a lot of pitching I have been trying to find good homes for all my much “needed” clutter LOL!!!Doing my part for the environment, trying to keep down the land fills!
All kidding aside doesn’t if feel good to have less…….I say YES!!
Comment by Maryanne (August 28, 2007 @ 11:19 pm )
Can’t Touch That…
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Hubbie is a DEFINITE pack rat…I’m an organized pack rat…. but after a while, the clutter gets to me and I get ruthless!
Comment by lu (August 29, 2007 @ 8:42 am )
Amy, I’m glad to learn what “sunk costs” means, but what would you call what happened to my husband and me this past month? Our son and d-i-l asked to have a garage sale here, so we did. My husband, who has a lawn service, decided to get rid of an old, perfectly good, mower engine, just because it was taking up space. Some guy gave us $25 for it and we probably made less than a hundred total all weekend. Sat. night after the sale, I used the remote in the truck to open the garage door, the handle of which snagged on the rope we had strung across the front of the garage to hang clothes on. Later that evening we heard what sounded like a meteorite landing on the roof of the garage; found no cause for said noise until next day when husband tried to raise garage door and found that the torsion spring at top of door had broken. He had to dismantle the door to get his work trailer out that Monday. It cost over a hundred bucks for the spring and misc. parts and we had no garage door for over two weeks. A couple days later, his mower quit working. We had to buy a “cheapie” mower for $500 at Home Depot, plus a couple hundred for parts to fix the old mower. The good part is we now have no money to buy any more clutter, but we are also scared to get rid of anything else! What’s the opposite of “caveat emptor”?
Comment by Barbara (August 29, 2007 @ 3:23 pm )
Perhaps you could use a picture of the print on your blog. Then you can look at the beautiful scene anytime. Then again it might be a reminder of the “sunk costs”. Off to declutter.
Comment by Tracy (August 29, 2007 @ 6:54 pm )
I saw a quote once, “one man’s trash is another man’s trash”. Thought it was funny. It’s always easier to junk someone else’s stuff.
Comment by Suzanne (August 30, 2007 @ 9:21 am )
Oh, Amy, you should have told DH that it would have made loads of money to sell it on eBay or have a garage sale or even offer it as a giveaway for one of your many faithful readers on your blog to encourage us “packrats” for a simpler life!!! Oh, if only he had waited…
~~em
Comment by Emily (August 30, 2007 @ 10:05 am )
We tried our first (and last yard sale) recently. Within a few hours we were furious with each other, had only made a little money which paid for an extravagently expensive fast food dinner because Momma was babysitting a bunch of junk on the front lawn in 100 degree heat and couldn’t cook. We lasted for a few hours and then to save sanity and marriage we dumped it all in the van and toddled off to the Salvation Army–cancelled the second day of the yard sale and went to the library with the kids in case anyone showed up. Never, never, never again. The Salvation Army will get lots more stuff. It amazes me how much we have accumulated–and how much I decided to keep!! It has been hard getting rid of some much of my sentimental stuff, but I guess I am glad that it’s gone. There is still a lot of clutter to go, though, so see you all later! BTW a trailer is on our list of next things to buy, too. I am so happy you all have found your place.
Comment by Another Heather (August 30, 2007 @ 10:31 am )
I say it again…
You are gonna miss it here!!
http://sunnynature.blogspot.com/
Comment by keri (August 30, 2007 @ 2:22 pm )
Hey Amy, my husband likes to save EVERYTHING, not because it might have a use, but, because, well, he likes his stuff. So, I have to be sneaky. What I have done, is box some stuff up, put it in the attic, then if he says NOTHING for a year or so, out it goes. OUT OUT OUT!! Best to you in your moving endeavors!
Best move I ever had was when I was 7 mos pregnant….and nobody would let me do a THING!!
Comment by Amy R. (August 30, 2007 @ 5:20 pm )
Amy–
Congratulations on your property!! I grew up (on a farm) in southern Ohio and have camped all around Kentucky, as recently as two summers ago–it is the most beautiful place.
We are packing to move too, so I’m right there with ya on the his junk/her junk thing!
Jeanne
Comment by At A Hen's Pace (September 1, 2007 @ 4:17 pm )
Hi Amy,
We are the same in our family. My husband is a packrat. I wish we could have met you while you were here. Misti said she really enjoyed meeting you. Maybe next time. Hope you had a great visit. We are so glad your moving close by.
Christy
Comment by Christy (September 2, 2007 @ 11:43 pm )
Sounds just like us - except I am the pack rat and the organizing freak at the same time. I do the closets in rainbows and the CDs are listed by number and on a spreadsheet that we use to look them up on my computer. My husband’s junk is mainly computer “trash” (bits and parts that have no particular purpose anymore and probably have been replaced by current technology). Oh, and computer books (which I have tried to dump on Half-Price-Books before and they REFUSED to take them). He refuses to part with items that seem to be outdated and useless… and I refuse to part with scrapbook and memorabilia that he thinks is useless “trash” that the kids will never want to look at. So we have vowed to not throw eachother’s “trash” away.
Yet - on any given moment that one of us goes rummaging around in the house and doing deep cleaning, the other one always comes running and says, “WHAT ARE YOU DOING?” and the answer (complete with a wicked grin) is always: “Throwing away your stuff!”
LOL
Comment by Sprittibee (September 3, 2007 @ 11:11 am )
A bummer!
Christi, I look forward to meeting you when we get up there.
Comment by Amy Scott (September 3, 2007 @ 2:32 pm )
How well I can relate! We moved from northern CA to FL then from FL to WA. But every move, I’ve found, and I’ve had many, is a good time to de-junk.
I look forward to your move journal. It brings back (now) funny memories. :O)
Comment by amy (September 5, 2007 @ 2:49 pm )