Stirring the gravy
Saturday, Oct 13, 2007
I want to be there for my kids. I’m not sure where “there” is, but you know, I want to do the right thing. Most moms do.
A lot of people tell me that the reason they don’t have ten zillion kiddos like me (but who’s counting?) is because they’re afraid they can’t be there for all of them. In fact, a stranger told me so again this week. It happens to me a lot—these out-of-the-blue stranger confessions—I think, because I look very approachable in the grocery store. I’m not sure what it is. Maybe it’s because they see that I hide the chocolate under all the produce in my cart. They nod their heads and say, “Yeah, lady, me too.”
Anyway. There’s something to be said about being there for your children. I feel good about my being here for my children right now, but it’s mostly because I can hardly move. Being nine months along makes it easy to be here than anywhere else.
But seriously, when you strip away all the psychobabble and other junk, kids just want you to be around. To look at them. To play Uno with them. To hug them when they walk by in the kitchen.
Peggy Noonan, author a book called Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness tells of a conversation with her brother-in-law in which she asked him what the best thing was about his mother when he was growing up.
“And, immediately he said, ‘That she was there.’
‘There for you,’ I said.
‘No’, he said, ‘actually there. In the kitchen. For twenty years she stood in the kitchen stirring the gravy. Every day I came home from school, she was there. When I came home with a broken arm or blood coming out of my lip, she was at the door. That’s the big change. Kids have no one home now. I don’t mean one-parent families, I mean two parents and both are out. And we’ll never go back to the old way again, ever.’”
The easiest way to go back to “the old way” is to never leave it. Just be there and stay.
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This is so true and very timely for today’s culture!!!
Thank you for sharing this today! I wholeheartedly agree!
Comment by MamaArcher (October 13, 2007 @ 1:43 pm )
Amen!!!
Comment by Carmen (October 13, 2007 @ 2:55 pm )
I still remember when my mother went to work outside of the home when I was a junior in high school, and the empty feeling I had in coming home and finding her “not there”. I’m almost 59 years old, and that feeling is still as though it were yesterday. I thank the Lord for giving me the privilege of being there for my four children. And the frosting on the cake is now my mother lives with us also, and is always there for the whole family!
Comment by Violet (October 13, 2007 @ 3:10 pm )
Wow - what a freeing post. Not that we don’t have other duties; but that just being there is huge, and it matters.
Comment by Kendra (October 13, 2007 @ 3:25 pm )
This post strikes a deep cord within…..I am a SAHM, homeschooling my 2 girls AND I’m a pastor’s wife. I was the product of 2 young unbelieving parents, who divorced when I was 4, then my mom remarried when I was 7, then divorced again when I was 11. Then I spent the rest of my adolescent years a latch key kid. All I can say is that the Lord in His providential care kept me from even more evil than I COULD have gotten into. I KNOW that if I would have been brought up in a Christian home with a mom staying at home, things would have been so much easier for me. The Lord showed me my sin and misery at 17.
I sure wish that my mom would have been there for me, but she was busy putting food on the table and clothes on our backs.
Comment by Marmee (October 13, 2007 @ 3:40 pm )
I read a book review on “Crazy for God” by Frank Shaeffer last night. I haven’t read the book, just the review.
I don’t know much about him…kinda sad to see his bitterness in some ways. But I thought something about the entire situation was profound.
He really was bitter about the times his (very famous and well loved)parents WERE NOT there for him. Even though they made family a priority…He perceived that their MINISTRY and reaching out to those who came to them for wisdom took them…from him. So sad…whether it is true or not. That’s a travesty that I pray I may stay aware of, and not fall into…letting even the good things take me from where I need to be right now. This is particularly profound for me since we just stepped out of full-time ministry. I get lots of flak, people saying things like…”I don’t want to stand behind my children, when there is a world that is dying.” It was a hard decision - but in the end, we did what we felt God called us to do: Take care of the kids while they are home with us, help out our elderly parents…and trust God for the rest….ministry and all.
Good post, Amy.
(Oh….I wanted to comment on the childbirth without pain thread…I have read the Childbirth Without Fear book per your suggestion. GOOD READ! Lots of wisdom expressed there that has been lost in the last 60 years. But what I am wondering is: If the last month plus is spent in pain (you mentioned painful contractions, and I hurt for the last 7 weeks at least!)…is it unrealistic to expect the labor to pain free? I mean…if you are already worn down and weakened from the pain, how can that suddenly get better in labor?
Me? I’m praying for manageable, at least! Praying for you, Amy - as your day approaches.
Comment by Holly (October 13, 2007 @ 3:57 pm )
Mmmmm…so true! A simple but profound outlook on mothering. I feel better now…the pressure’s off-you’ve somehow lowered the standard (in a mom’s world) and set it high (in today’s culture) at the same time. In today’s culture ‘being there’ is at best weird. Thanks for the encouragement!
Comment by Mel (October 13, 2007 @ 4:03 pm )
How very true. My mom was always there too. She was rarely there for me but she was always there. Anyoen got a time machine? We could just pop on back to the 1950’s and leave all this maddness behind!
Comment by Tiffany (October 13, 2007 @ 7:14 pm )
Since I lost my mom at a young age I alwaya felt let out.Now I don’t work out of the home so I am there for my children.
Comment by Tammy (October 13, 2007 @ 7:25 pm )
Amy,
What a wonderful and comforting post. I love it.
It reminds me of an article I once read in the “Above Rubies” magazine in which Nancy Campbell speaks of this very thing: “being there”. Just knowing we are there if very comforting to children. It’s kind of the same thread as “have your children work alongside you”. It’s encompassing.
Comment by Andrea (October 13, 2007 @ 7:29 pm )
Amy,
I loved, loved this post. I nod in understanding at most of your writings but this one was just a great reminder of why I do what I do and that it is important.
Comment by Amy (October 13, 2007 @ 8:35 pm )
The idea of simply being a constant in your children’s life is sadly novel in our culture. The only consistent thing in my childhood was all of the inconsistency.
The day in day out sameness where I homeschool, clean, correct, discipline, cook, talk, etc. all with the goal of raising kids who love Christ is beautiful, despite all of my folly. There is nothing more important in this season of life than their little hearts.
My 7 year old gives me the third degree everytime I want to run to the store for 30 minutes without him. Where are you going? How long will you be gone? etc… It surprises me because he spends every waking hour at home with me, but hates for me to be gone. Surprisingly, he doesn’t need to be on his own sometimes. It isn’t good for him, as I have heard some say to appease their own guilty conscience.
Holly, just wanted to encourage you by saying what will it profit to save the whole world if your own children don’t know Christ? We too have been convicted that our primary ministry in this season is the discipling of our children.
See, this is why I have never commented… I can’t stop once I start.
Great post, Amy!
Comment by Tasha (October 13, 2007 @ 9:14 pm )
What if you can’t be “there” because you have to work to keep the ship afloat? Does that make you less of a Christian, less of a woman, less of a mother, less of a PW? I am a full-time working labor and delivery nurse and I am an excellent mother, always working on being a better Christian and 100 % behind my pastor husband. My husband is the one that inspires many and I am his partner on the homefront that makes our house a home. Unfortunately, church work doesn’t always provide well financially. While my husband inspires many who are in high paying careers, I have to work full time because his earning isn’t what it could be if he weren’t doing what he is called to do. That makes me sad sometimes. I want to be a SAHM like many that I sit in the pew with but we can’t. Although I can’t be “there” 24/7, I am “there” as much as I can.
Comment by Kate (October 13, 2007 @ 10:11 pm )
Amy, I have recently found your blog and it has really been so encouraging for me in a lot of ways. I do have a question for you though. The comments about “A lot of people tell me that the reason they don’t have ten zillion kiddos like me (but who’s counting?) is because they’re afraid they can’t be there for all of them” I wonder the same thing. I desire for the Lord to be in control of our family size (we have 2) and most the time I want more, but I wonder, if we have more, if I will be able to “be there for them”. I mean I am a SAHM mom now and we “plan” for it to always be that way, but even being at home, do you ever wonder if you’re able to be there for them when there are so many of them. Do they get from you as the mother what they need when there are 5, 6, 7, etc of them all needing something. I mean this question with all due respect. I thought I’d ask you because you are seem so generous with your thoughts. TIA.
Comment by Taneesha (October 13, 2007 @ 10:46 pm )
thank you for that!
Comment by Mindy (October 13, 2007 @ 11:21 pm )
Wow, how nice it would be if parents could “be there” for their kids more! I myself was a latchkey kid, and many people see this as an unavoidable consequence of living during these expensive times. Many people just can’t afford to live off of only one income in order to have a parent present when their kids come home from school — especially when there’s more than one kid! So how can people still be present for their kids when we live in a world where it’s often impossible to live off of one income? I’m sure there’s a few tips and tricks, and as I don’t have any children yet, I’m glad I have time to figure them out! =)
Comment by Cahleen (October 14, 2007 @ 3:04 am )
Thanks for the reminder! I have really come to enjoy your website. You help me stay focused in my ADD world and encourage me to keep the main thing the main thing. I don’t know you but will pray for you today that your delivery will go well and that you will be back to being there and stirring the gravy in a jiffy :-). Heidi (Wisconsin)
Comment by Heidi (October 14, 2007 @ 8:52 am )
Bittersweet for me - and I love Amy’s writing. This time my first thoughts were, “I want to *be there* for my children, and thankfully always have been, but the Lord may have other plans for the duration of my life, as I am *hopefully* in remission from a cancer that took the life of my own mother when I was just 7. So, my thoughts nearing my one year diagnosis run two ways as I read these comments. One: how does one go about “being there” in a sense, when she might not actually be allowed to continue to “be there” as her children grow, mature, become young men and women of God?
Secondly, for Taneesha (and others) who asked about having more children than you can give your time to - it is a beautiful sight to me to see my older girls mothering the younger ones. My group don’t need the neighborhood children to do a fair amount of soccer scrimmaging (and the younger ones are picking up skills by playing against the olders that they would not get against other players their age). It is so sweet to see the little girls pair off hand in hand and go off to play, or make play of setting the table because they have so many helpers. My husband is a speech pathologist, but none of my children will need his help because the children amuse themselves all day long by telling the latest baby to say funny, challenging and humorous words - have you ever heard a one and a half year old say “nylons”???
When my first four were little I tied four pairs of shoes to go anywhere, not including my own! Now I’m only occasionally asked to do so - there are so many extra fingers willing and eager to help. (well, most of the time!)
For the mom who chose her primary ministry to her family, the reason many others might be in need of your ministry outside of the home is because their own parents did not disciple them, and I am thankful that God put this in your heart before the years were gone, never to be returned. I am also disappointed to learn of Franky Shaeffer’s response (or suffering?) due to his parent’s ministry to others. L’Abri sounded like a little slice of heaven on earth to me.
Sorry, Amy, I know this is your blog, at least I post infrequently enough so my thoughts aren’t cluttering all of your comments boxes!
Michaele
Comment by Michaele (October 14, 2007 @ 10:05 am )
Was just having talking with a friend about people commenting on my large family of four kids. That used to be the norm, but is getting more and more rare. I have so many thoughts on this subject! Too many to start. But one thing came to mind while reading this post, Amy, “A house becomes a home when there’s love inside.” Wether that’s the love of the Mom or the Parents or the whole family, no matter how big or small.
Comment by Annie (October 14, 2007 @ 4:00 pm )
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So true…and it’s just as important to “be there” when they are in high school as it is when they are toddlers….
Comment by Cathy (October 14, 2007 @ 4:53 pm )
The decision to be there is what will determine the future direction of families for generations to come. Parents that make the family a priority are the parents who are selfless and not selfish. It is the selfish parent that substitutes time for gifts. And pursues dual carrer aspirations at the expenses of successful family building.
Comment by Hadias (October 14, 2007 @ 5:16 pm )
(I must say, it’s a sad commentary on the church today if they cannot support a pastoral family such that the mother MUST work outside the home.)
My first thought, when people make the comment that they want to be there for their kids, especially if that comment is connected to the idea of NOT having a large number of children, is the fear that because of health or aging we may not “be there” for the children that may come along later in life. Truth is, we are not promised even tomorrow!
May God help us to have a vision of godly motherhood, no matter what our circumstances - SAHM or not, large or small family, etc. May He help us each one make the most of our time here.
Comment by Sheila (October 14, 2007 @ 5:55 pm )
I giggled out loud at your comment about the grocery store. As a mother of internationally adopted children, I get the grocery store commentary, A LOT. Why, why, why do people think it’s any of their business to comment on MY FAMILY. It never happens when we’re out to eat, at the bank or getting gas: always at the grocery, and typically near the bananas.
Good post, as always. My mother spent a lot of years stirring gravy, and I intend to do the same. It matters most.
Comment by Kathy (October 14, 2007 @ 6:05 pm )
Being the oldest of six kids in six years (all homeschooled), I wouldn’t trade a single sibling for all the gymnastics classes, cute clothes, “real school” and fancy activities in the world! We knew we were loved, and we knew the world didn’t center around us. Plus, we were poor, so even a bag of Oreos is a big deal to me now
Now, how to be more like my mother?!
Comment by megan (October 14, 2007 @ 6:17 pm )
But it’s quality time, not quantity that matters, right?
I’m so tired of hearing this excuse trotted out like it’s gospel truth. Kids don’t care that you slotted in some “quality time” for them–their crises and needs don’t operate on a schedule. They need someone THERE for them when they need it—not when it fits tidily into some pre-ordained “quality time.”
Amy, I totally agree. Stir the gravy, baby. Just stir the gravy.
Comment by Elizabeth (October 14, 2007 @ 7:27 pm )
A great post. I was just talking about this the other day with my mother. I told her I felt like sometimes I wasn’t doing enough for my kids - you know taking them to the park, museum, and such and such daily and having deep learning times. And she said - it is not the quality of time but the quantity (just like Elizabeth posted), especially when they are young. So when I’m doing chores or working on a project while they are sleeping (I confess I work 10-15 hours a week from home - a career I chose early on so I could stay at home) or if I’m cooking dinner, studying the bible, etc. they know I’m “there” if they need me to kiss a boo-boo, change a diaper, get a drink, play a game, give a hug, etc. They get a deep sense of security from that. I wish every woman had the opportunities to do that. But I know that sometimes providing a roof and food is a priority over staying home. Most of the women I know who work and have children do so to provide true necessities (mortgage, food, basic clothing, etc.) for their family and they are being selfless putting their family first by doing so.
Comment by Marie (October 14, 2007 @ 10:03 pm )
“Have you heard the one about the homeschooling family that lives on less than $22K a year in an area that costs above 100% (116%) of the National CoL Index?”
http://lobchatter.blogspot.com/
Comment by Elizabeth B (October 14, 2007 @ 11:00 pm )
My own experience growing up as a latch-key kid with a mother (and father) that wasn’t “there” really left me feeling unprotected as a child. It is that experience which has led me to the strong conviciton that I am the one whom God has called to care and raise my children. Not an employee paid hourly, not a neighbor who has a home daycare, not the public schools. Not even my mother. And it is this conviction that has gotten us through these last several years where we went from a family of 5 on little income and health insurance to a family of 8 with even less income and no insurance. If need be, we are prepared to sell our home and anything else to cut back expenses so that I can stay home with our kids. I recently visited the Jeub family website where they have six more kids than we do on even less income. They are quick to remind people that it is God who provides and not themselves. I always ask myself when things get tough and I start thinking about leaving my kids and getting a job, “am I trusting Him? Or am I relying on our own means to provide for the children he has blessed us with?”
Comment by Amanda (October 15, 2007 @ 12:56 am )
My mum was the same. She had 10 children and was home. She also worked with my dad, preparing the fishing nets, selling the fish that were caught, on the board of fisheries…
I grew up repelled by the poverty and how hard it was for her. I got swept away with the thoughts of the times; for a woman to work and have it all. But women who work out of the home and in the home are deceived. They still have to do all the work in the home on top of their job and all at a terrible loss… Their children. It took God to open my eyes… It just seems so clear to me now.
You have to do something well, either work, or be at home caring for the family and home that you have. I consider my home to be my factory, my work place. It’s hard work, with lots of overtime but God has designed me for the job and kitted me out for it, and has given me everything I need to get the job done!
Keep up the good work.
Comment by Ruth (October 15, 2007 @ 1:18 am )
Hi Amy, I just wanted to say thanks, it was a great reminder what my Mom did for us. She was a SAHM but she was also handicapped and back 35-40 years ago when my sister and I were born, they didn’t have jobs that were accessible for handicapped people like they are today. But anyway she was always “there” but always more than just being in the kitchen, whether it be sitting on the front porch steps playing catch, or squirting the hose for us to run through in the heat of the summer. She was always there to talk to liisten for whatever we needed. I am so thankful she was “there” she was the best!
She passed away in 2003 when I was 7 months pregnant with my 1st child. I feel that with her encouragement and God’s help I was able to stay pregnant. I had, had 3 miscarriages and needed some test done and without her encouraging me to go ahead and have the tests done I might just be a house wife with no children to be “there” for. Now 6 years later I have 3 beautiful children that I’m “there” for.
Even though times are tough and my husband may work 2 jobs it allows me to homeschool and be a SAHM too.
Thanks for sharing your insights on different matters you really have a way of writting that pulls me in. Maybe the truth and abliity to relate? Anyway have a blessed day!
Comment by Wenddie (October 15, 2007 @ 8:34 am )
Great post Amy. Thanks for the reminders.
I have posted on this same topic in the last few days
http://homebutnotalone.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/whats-in-a-name/
(if anyone is interested)
It was really in explanation to the name of my Blog.
I only have 1 daughter but I always say that if I never teach her anything else, I hope and pray she learns to be a homemaker first and foremost in her life. What a difference it makes to a family.
Elaine
“Home but not Alone”
Comment by mummymac (October 15, 2007 @ 3:49 pm )
AMEN! My mother was always there when my brothers and I got home from school. When I was 17, she got a different job and was no longer home after school. I remember coming home and feeling so lonely. I really noticed the difference.
Comment by Robin in New Jersey (October 15, 2007 @ 5:04 pm )
As a mom of 12 (ages 1-25), I see both ends of the spectrum since four of ours are out of the home (three married). I do not regret one moment of “being there” for those grown children, and am so grateful that I am still there for the eight at home. My dh is a pastor and it is an ongoing miracle that our needs are provided for, often unexpectedly and abundantly.
I just returned from an unusual circumstance of being away for a week and a half, and I told my dh today that I just want to stay home and stay home! I’m so glad to be back home with my little 1yo’s “face kisses” and 16yo’s opinions on 19th century child labor, etc. Didn’t miss the laundry and dirty kitchen floor, though.
Comment by Charlotte (October 15, 2007 @ 7:15 pm )
Taneesha asked the question of Amy and her answer might be better than mine, but I’m going to answer anyway. I think it increases my faith to see that God disciples my kids when I don’t have “time” to. It’s good to be reminded that only Jesus can meet their greatest needs, and they would be OK without me. I don’t know if there is an answer to Taneesha’s question that doesn’t offend at least someone out there. It’s hard to explain, but if life is manageable, it’s difficult to rely on God instead of yourself. That’s not to say that we should seek out chaos and difficulty all the time, just to say that my faith grows when I exercise it, and each child I have had has increased my faith. Also, practically speaking, having two kids is hard. Each time another baby comes along, he/she changes the ones you already have. We tend to think that if a kid’s countenance changes, that’s a bad thing, but I have a baby who changed the toughest sibling for the better, and it is amazing to me that God used an infant to soften him in a way that I NEVER could have. Also, I have a tendency (this is an understatement) to try to draw comfort that only God can give from my husband. Sometimes (often) it is not the work of childrearing that is tiring, but the work of idolizing things other than God. I don’t realize I’m doing it, and I think it’s the housework that makes me tired, but it’s really my SIN that makes me tired. So that’s my take on it–but many of Amy’s readers have more kids and wisdom than I do, so I’m willing to defer to someone else’s opinion!
Comment by Emily (October 15, 2007 @ 8:58 pm )
Do you think our children notice and appreciate the fact that we are “always there” if they are at home with us all day? The example you referred to fits nicely with a son or daughter who is coming home from school, but what about the ones who don’t leave their homes much?
Just wondering what you think. My 3 (soon to be homeschooled) kids aren’t “school age” yet, so I’m just thinking out loud.
Comment by Kristi (October 16, 2007 @ 12:13 am )
I have loved being there for our three children now for almost 20 years. There is no place I’d rather be. Now that all three of our children are teens they still need me to be home, not so much for a skinned knee or other injury, but to talk about life and whatever is on their minds. With two driving on their own now I am continually having to hold my hands open and remind myself that they belong to the Lord and He loves them even more than their dad and I do.
Great Blog Entry. Thanks Amy!
Julie D.
Comment by Julie D. (October 16, 2007 @ 8:13 am )
As one who left a full time job in education to work (very) part time in that same field after her children were born, I can see the beauty and necessity in this. I struggle so much with where we’re headed as my 3.5 year old nears school age. Are we home schooling or heading out the door to public school? Whichever way we are lead, I believe that it is easiest if we never get used to the 2 income household again. On another note, I never knew that motherhood would be so emotionally draining for me, and yet also have so much potential for growth for me. : )
Comment by Amy (October 16, 2007 @ 3:35 pm )
I thank God everyday for the opportunity to stay at home with my three little girls. They need me and I need them! Thank you for sharing your stories…God is so good
Comment by Shelley (October 16, 2007 @ 5:06 pm )
Thankyou for sharing. I know you are busy, but your insights are greatly appreciated. I have 7 and hopefully will have more. I’m 40, so we’ll see. I truly appreciate hearing that “being here” is valuable.
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Holly, I don’t know. I’ve been trying the “go limp” stuff and it still really hurts. Badly. More so than ever. I’m tired. At 36 weeks, I began having “sessions” of continuous contrax for about an hour once or twice a day. It’s just getting “worse.” I won’t be surprised if I don’t know when labor really begins.
And we’re experts and all being grande multiparas? 
Comment by Amy Scott (October 18, 2007 @ 10:42 pm )
I really enjoyed this post and I just wanted to let you know that I linked to your post today. You can find it on my blog at the link below.
MamaArcher’s Blog
Comment by MamaArcher (October 22, 2007 @ 11:02 pm )
I don’t remember how I came across your blog - but AMEN. I wish I had that book you’re talking about. If you read my blog, which you’re welcome to do - you’ll find that I am DESPARATE to be “there” for my one and only (at the moment). Unfortunately, we are financially unable to do that at the time. ANY IDEAS or HELP - I would gratefully invite any feedback.
Comment by heather (October 22, 2007 @ 11:40 pm )
This is a great post!
God bless,
Sallie
Comment by Sallie (October 23, 2007 @ 9:53 am )
Heather,
You might enjoy Crystal’s blog, Money Saving Mom.
Comment by Amy Scott (October 23, 2007 @ 2:21 pm )