Subway excludes homeschoolers…wah!
Tuesday, May 27, 2008
Whenever we have family get-togethers with Greg’s side of the family, we’ll usually hear some good natured ribbing from Greg’s younger sister. She is seven years younger than Greg. They’d play together when they were kids, but Greg would dominate in every game. He never let her win. Greg will be 40 this year, but he still can’t live down the “abuse.”
Greg is a bit of an overachiever (even when he’s not abusing the little guy), as are the majority of homeschoolers. It makes sense that Subway wants homeschoolers to take their bat and go home. If you don’t let them play, they can’t decimate the competition.
Subway is holding an essay contest for school children. Here’s who can enter: “legal US residents, over the age of 18 with children in either elementary, private or parochial schools that serve grades PreK-6. No home schools will be accepted.”
Now, it’s possible that Subway excluded homeschoolers since the grand prize is athletic equipment for the child’s school. Fair enough. It’s not like homeschoolers patronize parks or church playgrounds or community centers. But the bigger suspicion is that homeschoolers are kind of like my husband—they never let anyone else win at anything. From national test scores to the annual Spelling Bee, homeschoolers dominate. This isn’t a rah-rah for the homeschoolers, as I’ll get to my criticism next. It’s always dangerous to analyze motives, though. I’m married, so I know this.
The homeschool blogs are having a heyday with this public relations mistake. But I agree with Jube Dankworth who writes, “As a private corporation, Subway is free to include or exclude anyone from their essay contest, and can set up the rules of their contest as they see fit. So why — beside the blatant misspellings that even the eight-year-olds caught [which are now fixed…--Amy] — are homeschoolers so offended by this?” Go ahead and take your business elsewhere. That’s good. But stop with the discrimination charges.
Why don’t we independent types support autonomous businesses to do what they want with their money? It is not public money; it belongs to Subway to do whatever they want with it. If homeschooling exists because of the freedom allowed by the Constitution for parents to raise their children how they see fit (children belong to parents, not the state), then Subway ought to be afforded the same freedoms to give their money to non-homeschoolers (after-tax money belongs to Subway, not the state). It’s consistently applying the same principles, even when we don’t like it.
So, here’s my advice. Save your money. Don’t start a lawsuit. Practice hard for the Scripps National Spelling Bee and eat Quiznos.
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Brilliant. I don’t really like Subway or Quiznos, but I’m a big fan of freedom!
Comment by April (May 27, 2008 @ 4:43 pm )
Well said! My hubby saw an email through one of our local support groups and immediately asked me tongue-in-cheek if I was going to ban Subway.
Quiznos is already our choice
I’m with you. I’d rather spend my time and energy on something worthwhile. Like what my reading materials will be at the beach this week and what color I should paint the playroom. I personally have bigger fish to fry.
I don’t want the government telling me how to run my family and I don’t think they should tell private companies how to run theirs. Since my husband is an owner of a small business, this really chaps my hide. If his company were to have a contest, he might open to homeschoolers only and then the sparks would fly!
Thanks again for great commentary. Have a wonderful week!
Aimee
Comment by Aimee (May 27, 2008 @ 4:44 pm )
Thank you! This has been annoying me. I think that the reaction by homeschool parents is just the kind of “socializing” I’m happy to keep my kids from.
So, Subway wants to have a contest for group school students. Who cares? I’ll still eat at Subway (only occasionally, as it is crazy-expensive for a larger family.)
Homeschooling is a choice. I can live with being excluded from groupschool activities as a result of my choice. It’s not like homeschooling is genetic… hmmm… =)
Comment by Brenda on the S OR Coast (May 27, 2008 @ 5:57 pm )
I’ve seen this around the blog world. My thought was “so what”. There is too much in life to really get upset about…this wouldn’t be one of them in my book. Appreciate your take on this.
I like Quiznos better anyway….their Angus beef sub is so yummy…..oh sorry I got a little distracted. Can you tell I am hungry.
Comment by Mrs. M (May 27, 2008 @ 6:16 pm )
That was EXACTLY what my husband said when I told him about this the other day!
Comment by Stephanie (May 27, 2008 @ 6:32 pm )
Great post! Eloquent as always and right on the money! Plus we all know the real reason they don’t want homeschoolers entering is that the poor public schooled children wouldn’t stand a chance!
Comment by Lady Why (May 27, 2008 @ 6:37 pm )
Hey Amy,
I started to impugn motive as I began to read your post. I figured that you would encourage your readers to get up in arms about Subway. Happily, I was wrong (for a change–c’mon, my tongue is firmly planted in cheek as is often the case). I should know better since your posts are fair-minded.
I get so tired of people exercising their “rights.” As Christians, I’m pretty sure we gave those up when we began to follow Jesus. I have no problem with discourse–even a heated one–but I weary of the cries of discrimination and unfairness. As I often tell my kids, I don’t want God to be “fair” with me.
I homeschooled all my kids much of their school life before they went on to public or private school. It didn’t make them superior (or inferior) to public or private school kids. (My husband teaches in a high performing–whatever that is–public high school.) I didn’t homeschool my kids for a better education, anyway. I did it so they would learn what the Bible says about faith and practice and to better equip them to live in a world that is bereft of that kind of teaching.
Cathy
Comment by Cathy (May 27, 2008 @ 7:00 pm )
Wah. But I don’t *like* Quizno’s…….!!
Comment by Andrea@Flourishing Mother (May 27, 2008 @ 7:50 pm )
Oh, thank you so much. No one seems to be upset when someone sponsors a contest for homeschoolers (which happens) … why should it be the other way around? Are we so insecure and influenced by our society that we stamp our little feet and demand that we get as much orange juice as the kid sitting next to us?
Comment by brooke (May 27, 2008 @ 8:11 pm )
Amen. I’ve never been a fan of protesters.
Comment by David Kjos (May 27, 2008 @ 8:20 pm )
Well said!
Comment by Marian (May 27, 2008 @ 8:38 pm )
“Why don’t we independent types support autonomous businesses to do what they want with their money? It is not public money; it belongs to Subway to do whatever they want with it. If homeschooling exists because of the freedom allowed by the Constitution for parents to raise their children how they see fit (children belong to parents, not the state), then Subway ought to be afforded the same freedoms to give their money to non-homeschoolers (after-tax money belongs to Subway, not the state). It’s consistently applying the same principles, even when we don’t like it.”
I totally agree!
I think I will still eat at Subway. I like it too much. I don’t eat there often but when I have to eat out that is usually my choice.
Comment by Rhonda (May 27, 2008 @ 8:50 pm )
bravo! standing ovation!!!!
well said.
thanks!
julie
Comment by julie (May 27, 2008 @ 10:12 pm )
I actually haven’t heard of anyone calling for a lawsuit or government involvment. The last time we went to subway nobody thought it was that great plus they had nothing besides chips we could offer our kid with the milk allergy. We probably weren’t going back again anyway but I was bothered enough by this that we definitely won’t now. To me this is how freedom is supposed to work. If you’re stupid enough to not care about offending 2.2 million people of the population then those people will take their money and eat elsewhere. It doesn’t take gov’t interference or lawsuits for that to happen. Yes, I think business should be able to include or exclude whomever they choose. I even think they should not have to cater to the disabled and they shold be able to let their patrons smoke. If you don’t like it don’t give them your money. But, I still wrote Subway a letter saying they should allow homeschoolers and we won’t be going back. If you don’t tell ‘em why they’ll never have the opportunity to fix it if they want to.
Comment by Amanda (May 27, 2008 @ 11:13 pm )
Ahhhh… thank you. A voice of reason among all the “discrimination” screams. I’m thinking we should save our “activism” energy for a time when we need to protect our children from danger or from a true disadvantage. This isn’t one of those times.
~Michelle
Comment by Michelle (May 27, 2008 @ 11:37 pm )
Amanda #14: Your logic eludes me. The guy in the wheelchair shouldn’t be “catered” to (let him get his own wheelchair ramp!) but you’ll fire off a letter complaining about unfair treatment of homeschoolers who should be able to compete for giveaways?! Wow. That’s a pretty twisted view of compassion.
As for me, I’m pretty thankful for wheelchair ramps and extra-wide doors. They help out Moms like me who are pushing double-wide strollers.
You might want to re-think your definition of stupid.
Comment by Elizabeth Esther (May 28, 2008 @ 12:15 am )
Rock on girl. When I got the forward a couple days ago (like 12 times throughout the day) I had the same feeling. How obnoxious does it make us look to demand that we be included. Also, the prize is $5000 towards the winning childs SCHOOL. The child doesn’t get to spend the cash on video games, but it goes to the school. I think almost anyone would agree that schoolteachers are underpaid, schools are underfunded, etc. etc. So, more power to the public or private school kid who can score $5000 towards his or her school! Thanks for your honesty and for telling it like it is!
Comment by greenchickadee (May 28, 2008 @ 12:17 am )
This is a super post! I thought the same thing. Why get so worked up over something so trivial? There are so many important things to worry about in this world, it seems to me that anyone who has enough energy to fight this issue has enough energy to take their fight and help a worthwhile cause. I just can’t get all worked up about a contest. There are a billion contests out there, and they are all targeted to different groups. Such is life. It just isn’t worth all of the drama when there is so much else good people could be doing with their time.
Comment by Jen (May 28, 2008 @ 5:45 am )
I find ther whole hysterical.Of course when I tried to find contests for homeschoolers all I found was one sponsored by homeschooling groups,homeschool magazines and churches.If people are upset about Subway then why don’t they write letters to any company they can think of and ask them to sponsor a contest for homeschoolers only.
The thing I find hysterical is people are upset but I would think most homeschoolers would be glad that they are not in the same contest as us publicschoolers.Half of the time from what I read on the blogs homeschoolers are trying to stay away from us and not have anything to so with the public schools.A big reason I am surprised that people would be upset because Subway is parteners with Walmart and we know who Walmart supports!
At least one can collect Box Tops if homeschoolers met this ctiteria:Accredited home school associations, K-8, in the United Sates that are organized and operated primarily for educational purposes and have 15 or more students.
Comment by Tammy (May 28, 2008 @ 7:00 am )
Great post Amy! (as always!) We are always quick to start fighting for our “rights”- they can do what they want to do(encourage children to write who might not otherwise)-we can do what we want to do (homeschool) Thanks for the great reminder- if it’s not the gospel, let it go!
Comment by Anita (May 28, 2008 @ 8:33 am )
Great advice!
Comment by Jenny (May 28, 2008 @ 9:17 am )
Hooray for you! What a wonderful way to put it! I will choose not to go to Subway while this contest is going on because my kids would want to do it, and can’t, but other than that, who cares? There are so many other good places to go, so many other things that do include homeschoolers, who has the time or energy to spend on this? And it certainly is more appropriate that the grand prize goes where it will benefit the most kids (though homeschool groups could use it too!), though an alternative for homeschoolers would have been nice. My kids love to participate in every contest that comes their way. But, agreed, maybe we should give the other kids a chance, since by and large (as you pointed out) the homeschoolers dominate the competition!
Besides, feeding our large family at Subway is just a budget breaker anyway! I did point out to Subway that they have just excluded a significant portion of their customers, and many of those “homeschoolers” tend to come from larger families, who I am sure spend a great deal at Subway when they do go there.
But to get all hysterical about it, or claim discrimination, is a bit over the top. Who has the time or energy for that if you are schooling your kids???? Not me! By the way, there went two of them off to feed the cats, with way too much food in their hands!!! So, off to the life we live!!!!
Comment by Christy (May 28, 2008 @ 10:55 am )
I think it’s alright to write a respectful letter to Subway, asking for clarification on the exclusion. The “hurt feelings” thing is another matter.
For the record, I think I’ve eaten at Quiznos one time in my life. I was just being cheeky. This is one reason I don’t write opinion genre blog posts. I’m really bad at it.
Comment by Amy Scott (May 28, 2008 @ 11:28 am )
You go girl! ;0)
Comment by Mrs. Klause (May 28, 2008 @ 12:26 pm )
Amy, you are not bad at this, you are good at it. This is a well written, grace based post, and I enjoyed it.
I teach at a small Christian school, and our students are excluded from a huge amount of Christian contests and because they AREN’T home schooled, and from most secular contests because they aren’t public schooled. It’s just something we accept. That’s what freedom is all about.
Comment by Coralie (May 28, 2008 @ 12:57 pm )
:::clapping::: What a very well written post–I totally agree with you!!!
Julieann
Comment by Julieann (May 28, 2008 @ 1:51 pm )
You make a valid point. Subway is only exercising their freedom. I plan to do the same: by not eating there.
I have never agreed with government funding of schools; but, if we have to pay for them with our tax dollars, why on earth would you (in this case, Subway) also want to throw your after-tax money at them? Don’t we already pay enough in taxes???

Comment by Sarah D. (May 28, 2008 @ 1:55 pm )
To Elizabeth Esther #16:
Ummm…okay, I’ll “rethink my definition of stupid.” If it will help your day get better!
Comment by Amanda (May 28, 2008 @ 2:03 pm )
Talk about timing! This all happens just as dh (homeschooling dad) is opening a Subway franchise in part to afford our (many) primarily homeschooled children a way to earn $$ …. Can’t help it — I’m ticked.
Great post, Amy!
Comment by Elise (May 28, 2008 @ 2:52 pm )
Thank you!!! I had the same thoughts. I like Subway and I understand why homeschooled students would be excluded. They want to finance gym equipment to benefit hundreds of kids, not provide one family with the best home gym ever.
I did however write them (subway) and say that while I completely understood what they were doing, I’d love the chance for my kids to participate in another give away that would be a bit more equal. I also let ‘em know that we’d be back to eat there ’cause it’s the truth 
Comment by Kelli C. (May 28, 2008 @ 3:02 pm )
Great post
I actually wrote them and thanked them for the contest and apologized on behalf of the emotional knee-jerk reaction by homeshoolers to let them know that not all of us feel that way. And let them know I’d continue to give them my business. I wrote about this too, but from a different angle.
Comment by Mrs. Taft (May 28, 2008 @ 4:07 pm )
In my world it is called an intentional walk and it’s a form of flattery. My advice: take your base and steal second, act like you’ve been there before.
Comment by Cindy (May 28, 2008 @ 4:20 pm )
So I get in the car to run errands–If a mother’s place is in the kitchen, why am I always in the car?– turn on the radio and hear the booming voice of Rush Limbaugh resounding throughout the car. I’m not a fan, but had it on long enough to hear about the homeschool brouhaha regarding Subway (he did so in a positive light toward homeschoolers). Maybe he reads your blog, Amy, because I can’t imagine any homeschoolers being upset about the exclusion from the contest and actually raising a ruckus. And, yes, I’m being sarcastic–but without an edge this time!
Cathy (again)
Comment by Cathy (May 28, 2008 @ 5:31 pm )
I think we should show the other cheek. Instead of boycott, lets all pick a day and eat at our local subway and let the individual owners know that we don’t hold them responsible. I think there is a more effective way to communicate the fact that there are many of us and we should be included. Jesus said if someone forces you to go a mile, go two (Matt 5:41). Anyone can boycott. Even so, anyone can love a friend. But to love those that persecute you shows the true nature and power of God. Grace? Forgiveness? Anybody? What light do you carry in this world?
Comment by JustinLately (May 28, 2008 @ 6:05 pm )
Cathy, I’m curious what Rush’s take on it was? That would have been interesting to hear.
Comment by Mrs. Taft (May 28, 2008 @ 6:31 pm )
I disagree with the approach of AFA and others who expect pagans to act like Christians and then pitch a fit when they don’t. (Meat sacrificed to idols, non-believers spread the mayonaisse, whatever.)
I applaud the posters here and elsewhere who take the time to contact Subway and get the facts straight first. Immediate boycott might not be the answer; explain & give ‘em a chance to fix it. Subway’s replies indicate a genuine willingness to make right; it seems an issue of ignorance more than any deliberate slight.
Now, the technical side…
In the case of the great commonwealth of KY, homeschools are recognized with the same legal status as any private school. In my estimation, Subway’s explicit exclusion of homeschoolers is not a legal delineation in this state. The point is less a matter of a contest prize than of public perception and legal precedence. If it is popularly believed that it is legally acceptable to exclude homeschoolers, or Christians or whatever, it is much more difficult to convince legislators, not to mention voters, to act to preserve the rights of those people. But don’t start a class action suit with MY name on it.
Subway IS a private company, but they have chosen to open a PUBLIC contest, which in turn means they cannot say “black students not allowed.” Civil rigts law contains only certain protected classes…race, creed, national origin (we usually skip over that paragraph, but it should sound familiar) Homeschoolers are NOT one of those classes, however they ARE legally a “school” as much as Podunk Public High, for what that’s worth.
The disabled ARE a “protected class” and by law and scripture we are to take care of them… and as is true in most things, if we followed the scripture part voluntarily, we wouldn’t need laws to make it happen.
My bottom line: protest for the right reasons in the right way.
Comment by Eric Peterson (May 28, 2008 @ 10:53 pm )
Hi Amy.
I wish I had sat on that email and waited a bit before firing my own blog post off, too. I admit that it is quite the anthill compared to the scary stuff going on in DC that may end up domino-ing our way if we don’t all call to stop it.
However, I do understand why it hurt enough for homeschoolers to get upset by this slap… the wording on the contest rules did say “homeschool”… so obviously homeschooling WAS considered before they wrote it. I think someone (the PR flunkie) was either 1. vastly un-educated about the number of homeschoolers in the USA, or 2. didn’t have a favorable disposition towards homeschoolers to begin with. Either that, or they wouldn’t have even included the word homeschool at all. Get my point? It did rub off as a “snub” to me. I think that is what really got to me at first glance.
I put my “hate” post together in about ten or fifteen minutes before attending my otherwise crazy life and didn’t give it another thought. I figured it was a “get off blog for free day”… a brainless post to give me the day off around the house. That was my first mistake. After the word “hate” in the title and link, of course… so you can make that third mistake if you are keeping tabs.
After I started getting comments, I realized that my “over the top”-ness was … well… over the top. So I changed my post to read: Subway excludes homeschoolers rather than hates them. A little late, but hey - I think homeschoolers should be afforded a mistake or three if Subway and Scholastic can make some with their spelling and contests, right?!
Please let us all give everyone a break here.
We are just passing on the news - albeit not always in the most effectively polished and gentle manner!
By the way, if it makes anyone out there shaking their head at me feel any better, I did amend my post to ask homeschoolers to THANK Subway… and I apologized to a reporter and told her that homeschoolers were NOT an angry mob… we just wanted to educate Subway about the 2 million kids they left out.
Comment by sprittibee (May 29, 2008 @ 12:08 am )
I think there is actually a really interesting underlying philosophical component here. It relates somewhat to what Amy mentioned in her post about the John Piper/”safety in the inner-city” concept. I think it’s why the decision to homeschool (or buy a farm) is obviously one to be undertaken very deliberately, realizing that there will surely be ripples we never anticipated. It’s not as black and white as “well, are we going to be separate or aren’t we?” That gets us back to the Amish. For whom this issue holds no relevance, obviously. (at least I’m assuming they don’t do much, if any, dining out at chain restaurants) It’s tenuous territory and I think, as usual, that Amy has done a great job of presenting it in a winsome and insightful way.
This isn’t an endorsement by any means because I’m only 88 pages in, but all the Subway talk reminded me of a book I’m reading titled Animal, Vegetable, Miracle about the novelist Barbara Kingsolver and her family who commit to a year of eating only what they can grow on their own small farm or buy locally. I thought of you, Amy, because she gets positively rhapsodic about seed catalogs. And finding locally grown rhubarb in winter, when her daughter has written as her only request on the “grocery” list: “fresh fruit, please???”
Comment by Patti (May 29, 2008 @ 12:15 am )
since you alluded to it, there are many that say homeschooled children win spelling bees more often than public school is that their parents solely focus on spelling bee preparation, and they don’t devote as much time to other subjects as public school students to.
however, i don’t really like subway.
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There is grace for all my homeschool mom friends, Spiritbee. We are a flailing bunch. I am a knee-jerk reaction sort of person in recovery, and so I am keenly aware of it (because I am prone to them). For what it’s worth, we talked about Greg picking up some subs last night at Subway (because I am sick), but we opted for some leftovers in the end.
I am thinking about the question which Eric alluded to (#36), Are homeschoolers a protected class? And if so, should they be? Why or why not?
My initial thought is, no, they’re not afforded protection because homeschooling is a choice and being black or female or handicapped is not a choice. However, religion is a protected class, and that IS a choice (in most cases).
I am thinking about this.
Subway already apologized, so I think it’s time to let it go in the let’s-band-together-sense (if you were on that bandwagon, let’s say). But I’m still mulling over the whole thing in my mind.
Comment by Amy Scott (May 29, 2008 @ 10:16 am )
Amy, I think you made some good points. I understand homeschoolers who would like for their children to have equal opportunity in such contests, but I also understand that Subway’s prize was equipment suitable for a school environment.
In that light, I wrote this letter to Subway today:
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I have not written before now, but have followed this story with interest.
I appreciate the apology which your company has offered, while at the same time realizing the contest is still closed to home educators’ children.
My family has been homeschooling since the early ’90s. We are committed to home education and have seen excellent results with our children.
We are also faithful Subway customers, having patronized your business for a number of years. Subway is unique among fast food restaurants for a number of reasons and we do appreciate the healthy, tasty choices you offer.
Though you may not be aware of it, there are well-organized home educator organizations throughout the country which would benefit from receiving the money you offered in your recent promotion which was only made available to public- and privately-schooled students. They could use the money in establishing and running homeschool co-ops where students work together in classes, particularly those which require lab equipment. They could also use the money toward physical education programs, playground equipment, or gym equipment.
It is also noteworthy that home educators continue to pay taxes for public education while not receiving any benefits from same for their children.
It seems to me the main criterion in such contests as you offered should be the worthiness of the student, not the arena in which said student is educated.
I do hope you’ll give thought to all these considerations should you decide to offer another such contest.
Sincerely,
Comment by Claire (May 29, 2008 @ 10:17 am )
Patti, The first Amish person I ever saw was in Burger King, but that is entirely antidotal and don’t mean to distract from your point there. I just had to say it.
Comment by Amy Scott (May 29, 2008 @ 10:19 am )
I had to laugh at the fact that someone thinks Amish never eat out! All the Amish people i have come in contact with eat out more than anyone I know!
They usually pay drivers to take them places and eat out while they are out, they enjoy it! I ate out alot more when we drove Amish than any other time!
Comment by Martha (May 29, 2008 @ 11:11 am )
Eric Peterson said:
I have’t seen AFA ‘expecting pagans to act like Christians’, but it’s certainly possible I’ve missed something.
I do appreciate AFA’s efforts in letting us know what companies support with their income. For example, our family will not be buying a certain make of car as long as that company is actively promoting ‘gay’ marriage with money it makes from consumers like us.
As someone else here said, they are private companies and they have every right to promote whatever they wish.
At the same time, we are private citizens and we have every right to decide whether we wish to support them in their endeavors. If I know a company is owned by Christians and funnels part of its income into projects I can support, I am happy to patronize that company.
Comment by Claire (May 29, 2008 @ 1:38 pm )
Subway has written an apology, you can access it by going to http://www.hslda.org/docs/news/200805280.asp
Comment by Terri (May 29, 2008 @ 3:50 pm )
I feel like I’ve been had!! So they don’t NEED electricity in their homes because they can just get someone to drive them to Burger King???
Comment by Patti (May 29, 2008 @ 4:35 pm )
Mrs. T,
I only listened to Limbaugh briefly, but in the context of bashing public schools, he mentioned that Subway wasn’t allowing homeschoolers to participate in their essay contest. His take on it was that they weren’t allowing it because Subway knew that homeschoolers would win.
As to Eric’s premise that pagans aren’t going to act like Christians, what does being a “pagan” have to do with Subway excluding homeschoolers from the contest? I agree that we shouldn’t expect unbelievers to act like Christians (sometimes, candidly, they act better), but why must we assume that there is something sinister behind the Subway decision?
Just wondering…
Cathy
Comment by Cathy (May 29, 2008 @ 4:50 pm )
This is totally off the Subway conversation but the timing was so perfect I had to say it. Regarding the Amish and fast food: a close friend of mine just posted about a trip she went on this week. They were at McDonald’s and an Amish buggy went through the drive through. She didn’t take a picture because the Amish don’t like that so it would be rude, but she did take a picture of what the horses left behind in the drive through lane!
Comment by Rhonda (May 29, 2008 @ 10:50 pm )
congrats Amy, for truly putting this issue into perspective!!!!!! you are 100% CORRECT… Many of our forefathers have died so we can live with the freedoms and liberties we are so truly blessed with and take for granted today! thank you for the wake up call.
Many Blessings;
lori
Comment by lori pandolfo (May 31, 2008 @ 6:43 am )
It is okay to photograph the Amish from the back of their horses and buggies, without their faces showing (as in the McDonald’s drive-through). They just don’t like to be photographed themselves - seems they correlate the commandment about ‘no graven images’ with photographs.
Comment by Claire (June 1, 2008 @ 8:16 am )
To address the inadvertent limitation of our current contest and provide an opportunity for even more kids to have the benefit from prizing that encourages physical activity, we are creating an additional contest in which home schooled students will be encouraged to participate. When the kids win, everyone wins!
Comment by D (June 1, 2008 @ 10:33 am )
Thanks for posting this. Wonder when we’ll hear about this contest for homeschooled children?
Comment by Claire (June 1, 2008 @ 3:31 pm )
Wow, Subway apologized on your blog, AMY! How cool is that?
Now I’d like to read the apology from some all you boycotters!
Comment by Elizabeth Esther (June 1, 2008 @ 8:22 pm )
I love their backhanded way of “apologizing”. They state: “To address the inadvertent limitation…”, INADVERTANT?!?!? How is “No home schools will be accepted” INADVERTANT?!?!?!?
Comment by Occassional Male Reader (June 1, 2008 @ 9:22 pm )
Amy~~ I must live in a box, because I had no idea about any of this. It’s not like I’m new to homeschooling or don’t have any contacts in the homeschool community.
Now that I have been informed, I want to say…… “What’s the big deal?” People need to stop feeling so entitled and hurt when they are not acknowledged.
Thanks for the great post and the great insight!! :0)
Comment by Lesley (June 2, 2008 @ 8:59 am )
Its very rare that I agree with anything you write, but I agree with this. I’m grateful for the connection. THanks for writing and making me think about what I believe.
Comment by c. (June 2, 2008 @ 1:03 pm )
Amy,
What if Scripps implemented a new policy that stated “No home school students may participate in future contests?”
What if Subway’s contest’s award was $100,000 scholarship?
Why does anyone who home schools care about the decision in California?
The root issue is discrimination.
Comment by Occassional Male Reader (June 2, 2008 @ 6:52 pm )
Occasional Male Reader,
I think you are missing the point. The prize was NOT a 100,000 scholarship. It was equiptment for a SCHOOL. The prize WAS the reason for the rules.
Do you realize how many contests are out there that are only open to specific groups of people? I know for a fact that there are many scholarships out there for only homeschool students. Isn’t that the same thing? Aren’t they discriminating against public/private school children?
What about the Black Student Unions in Colleges? Are they discriminating against me because I am white? Or Black Miss America? Or contests only open to residents of say, Rhode Island, over the age of 18? Isn’t that discrimination under your description? Even if the contest happens to be a grocery store that is only IN Rhode Island? Why should I, who lives in Pennsylvania, be excluded?
I saw recently a contest in which the prize was a Rosetta Homeschool Curriculum… and it was only open to homeschoolers… now, as a public school parent, I have no use for the prize, but should I have screamed discrimination? NO… because first, it is a homeschool prize, and second, WHO CARES? I have SO many other things in my life to focus on other than whining about a homeschool contest being held.
This crying and whining over every little thing by ANY group of people is out of hand. Everyone feels they are entitled to EVERYTHING.
There is a war going on right now, children starving right here in this country and in other countries, children who are dying from terminal illnesses, children who have lost parents, children who are being abused, etc… and people are worried about a Subway contest?
I just think it is really sad what this world has come to if that is something that has people running and screaming discrimination. If those same people spent their time helping those in need, the world would be a better place.
Comment by Jennifer (June 3, 2008 @ 7:23 am )
I’m a homeschooler and can see both sides of this, but I honestly never would have expected us to be eligible to win $5,000 worth of gym equipment, with only 2 students.
At the same time, it’s really bad PR on the behalf of Subway not to have at least offered some sort of alternative contest for the homeschooling community. Even $500 would have been really cool. We are real schools too… legal and everything (most places, lol).
Subway has no obligation to us though. They’ve broken no laws here. I think the words “no homeschools” just touched a nerve with some who feel like they’re not considered legitimate. In my state, you must register as a private school in order to be legal. With that said, we are a private school of 2 kids, 2 teachers, registered with our state.
Anyway, just thought I’d share my thoughts.
Comment by Wendy (June 3, 2008 @ 1:25 pm )
Truce!
Comment by Amy Scott (June 3, 2008 @ 7:08 pm )
Funny, Amy- I felt the same way you’ve described here– like aw, well, too bad, get over it.
Living in Central Asia, I’m just glad we actually HAVE a Subway in our city. They make darn good sandwiches.
Comment by Jess @ Making Home (June 5, 2008 @ 9:08 am )
Well..I guess I am of the opinion that Subway was clearly not thinking about what a PR mess they were going to have on their hands by their poorly thought out wording and have hopefully learned a very important lesson.
Comment by kepola (June 6, 2008 @ 5:36 pm )
Dear Amy,
I wanted to let you and everyone else know that Subway has revamped their Every Sandwich Tells a Story contest, reintroducing it as a Summer Special, running through August 31. They even took out a banner ad with Homeschooling Today magazine.
For all those who clamored about Subway excluding homeschoolers, now’s the time to show them that we will indeed participate when they include us. The registration form I saw asks for the Child’s School Name, so homeschoolers should make sure they enter something like Smith Family Homeschool, rather than Smith Academy.
The link to the contest is available on http://www.homeschooltoday.com.
Blessings,
Jim Bob
Comment by Jim Bob Howard (July 9, 2008 @ 9:06 am )